V1

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by Karnak
Which planes do we have that intercepted them?

None that I can see.

Maybe the Tempest I guess, but the Spitfire Mk IX, Spitfire Mk XIV and P-51D are not modeled with 150 octane fuel and the Meteor Mk I is not in the game.

P-47M was used to intercept them;)

[eddiek]

P47M would be a nice V1 interceptor......

But I bet we see more and more "wunderweapons" before we see one of those......

[Otto]

I'm not going to use any or my 'perkies' on something I 'point and shoot' one time

[bockko]

For say 50 bomber perks points you select a field within range and fire it off. It stays on course by it self and unless intercepted destroys 80% or more of the town.

I dunno about hitting a city and destroying so much of it. The V1 had a simple gyro system to keep it flying and was very innacurate. Seems you would be lucky to hit the general target area. I also don't know how you would assign a perk value to a blind weapon. To use the v1 as a tactical weapon distorts how they were actually used - as a terror weapon against militarily insignificant targets.

Cool weapons, but don't think they fit in the game.

[Wmaker]

Originally posted by Karnak
I also note that MW50 and GM1 are modeled on serveral German fighters, so I don't understand your complaint there.

As english isn't my native language I'm not 100% sure but AFAIK "several" means more than two.

As Karnak said, I don't think there needs to be aircraft specialized for shooting down V-1s before we can include them.

Especially if the aircraft (unperked) would mess up the rest of the gameplay. As AH evolves we might see them someday perked (according to current perking policy). Intercepting a target which has slightly faster level top speed compared to AH's faster unperked planes isn't very hard to do because usually you would have enough alt to catch it with.

We have planes that have shot down V-1s in real life in the game already. For example Fleet Air Arm's Avenger's turret gunner shot one down.

As for having them in AH...I dunno, maybe they would be cool...I really don't have an opinion on that..depends on how they would be implemented.

[Replicant]

Why perk the V1?  I don't see why it should be as high as 50 perkies....  there are several ways of limiting the use of them though.  Only allow them at certain forward fields and again they only have a 'spawn point' which basically means that they can only aim at certain fields - you deploy the launcher at any given spawn point which can then only fire at certain targets (perhaps deploying could cost a few perkies).  Whether they hit or not is part of the chance of launching one.  Obviously I guess you'd have to have a set limit on how many you can launch at any one time from a particular base.

[vorticon]

v1 rockets would be fun...but should only be able to be used against bases oh lets say at least 60k away. that way they can easily be intercepted by whatever happens to see them. as for intercepts well theyd be fun to...the suicide ones with the 20 rockets in there nose.

[Otto]

Let everyone launch one a day......

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by -ammo-


P-47M was used to intercept them;)

Very, very doubtful since the P-47M went operational in April 1945.

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by MiloMorai


Very, very doubtful since the P-47M went operational in April 1945.

I did some reading and you are correct. I was under the presumption that while the P-47M was not designed to combat the the V-1's(some folks believe that) that they were the the right medicine at the right time. AT 480 MPH, they would indeed work well at intercepting them.  However, by September of 44 the Allies had overun most all of the V-1 launching sites and they were no longer a threat. Besides, a 425 MPH D30 could run the thing down anyway.  

However, you should know that the first of the P-47M's arrived in the UK in October of 44. Production was full bore on the M at this. time. They encountered several problems initially in the ETO but were worked out soon. All operational P-47M's were allocated to the 56th FG.

sorry to hijack this thread.

[MiloMorai]

ammo, remember that the V-1 flew at less than 1500m altitude at a speed of ~560-650kph. The speed of the Jug quoted was at "high" altitudes.

Did you also know that ALL the R-2800 engines in the P-47M that arrived in GB in early 1945 had to be replaced because of extensive corrosion besides your mentioned ignition breakdowns at high altitudes, low cylinder head temps and short range.

[-ammo-]

The P-47M was no slouch at low alts either.  It was pacing with the tempest.

There is a long list of teething problems for the P-47M once it was made operational in the fall of 44.  It really was rushed into action too soon.  I suggest Warren Bodies book for the complete list in detail and even some nuggets that cannot be found anywhere else. (yes I know all of the problems).

Actually the venerable R-2800-57 (capable of 3600 HP!!) were available in the spring of 44. Reference pg 238 of Warren Bodies book.

Luckily, Hitech/Pyro hasnt yet modeled problems for any of the planset as of yet, so we can only assume they will model a fully capable P-47M.

One of those little nuggets--

"In testing the new WEP rating, we instrumented an engine completely, including detonation detectors which allowed us to determine just how high we could run the manifoild pressure and carbuerator air temp without (experiencing) detonation. All HP was measured with a calibrated torquemeter."  Then, with quiet authority, Brab dropped his bombshell: "on the test engine, as installed on the first YP-47M [42-27385]- we repeatedly ran up to 3600 HP with no recorded problems! Thats 3600 HP out of 2800 cubic inches on grade 100/130 OCTANE gasoline in 1944-1945.  After about 250 hours of very intensive testing, the engine and airframe were adjudged to be dangerously worn and were retired from the program"

He then goes on to say something even more amazing. The same AC, 42-27835, had been bought by Bill Odom and he called for info on the AC. He stated that he intendedto race the AC in the 1947 BENDIX Trophy "R" raec from LA to Cleveland. He said the AC was runnign flawlessly after Brab had warned him that that was the same AC that had undegone those grueling tests.

WOW

[-tronski-]

I don't think it'll ever happen....at least player launched in the MA

 Tronsky

[Innominate]

The v1 isn't a rocket...
It's more a cruise missile, powered by a pulse jet.


The v2 was a rocket.

[MiloMorai]

ammo, what were the USAAF FG or FS that had operational P-47Ms in the fall of 1944?