P51d vs La7

[BGBMAW]

i disagree.....

the p-51 with full flaps ...FULL FLAPS..can turn dam well at lo speeds..


I said well...

not bettr then zero's and such

[CraigThomas]

just dont fight an LA-7 and skip the problem all together

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by CraigThomas
just dont fight an LA-7 and skip the problem all together

Are you flying in the same MA as I am?

[CraigThomas]

Simply meant dont fly the P51 up against the LA-7....try to out manuever it, much easier with like a spit or a seafire or an A6m...

[Innominate]

The only real defense against the la7 is don't get low, or slow.  Unless you're a MUCH better pilot than said la7 or get lucky, you're going down.

[AvidMC]

Well the first thing you have to do is find the mothership that is usually parkrd in orbit around the planet. Then send up a P-47 with a Apple laptop and a virus to upload and then.....:D

Avid

[CraigThomas]

So many quazy peoplez:D

[Viper17]

Take a tip from this man. How many he kill?
EDIT.. wrong pic

[whgates3]

i wonder if Hartmann ever faced the La 7 - any know a complete list of Hartmann's kills on the web?

[HoHun]

Hi whgates3,

>i wonder if Hartmann ever faced the La 7 - any know a complete list of Hartmann's kills on the web?

Forget about subtype recognition in combat :-) I don't think that ever worked.

Toliver and Constable list 10 "LaGG-7" kills according to Hartmann's log  (which ends 13.12.1943) and 8 more according to his letters. (Hartmann's log for 1944 and 45 was taken away from him when he became a POW).

However, it seems like Hartmann just reported all radial-engined fighters as "LaGG-5" first, switching to "LaGG-7" in mid-october 1943. I bet this was in agreement with the contemporary intelligence reports, which were less than perfect.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

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[Alpo]

I appreciate the replies.  I didn't really want to start a LA7 is uber, perk it debate because that can be said about almost any plane in it's element.

It sounds like a scissors manuever after the deployment of flaps is the preferred method for attempting the removal of that LA7 on your six.  I've done some scissor fighting with the P51 when I was the aggressor and had good success with it and while flaps are something I know how to use, I'm just not really comfortable on knowing WHEN to deploy them.  Is there a standard for the speeds at which one/two/more notches should be used??

[Blank]

Something else,

If I'm not mistaken it is easier to roll in one direction compared to another because of prop wash/gyroscopic stuff.

Russian engines rotate the  opposite direction to most the other planes i.e p-51d

So wouldn't you gain/loose an advantage dependant on which way you decide to roll?

Just a thought that might help

[Alpo]

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Originally posted by Alpo
Is there a standard for the speeds at which one/two/more notches should be used??

[Tilt]

Originally posted by HoHun

However, it seems like Hartmann just reported all radial-engined fighters as "LaGG-5" first, switching to "LaGG-7" in mid-october 1943.

Guess you mean mid Oct 44?  I thought Hartmans gruppe operated South & East of Warsaw in mid/late 44.....in which case he would not have seen one (La7) until September at the earliest.