Author Topic: P-47 ordinance options (Read 794 times)

-ammo- · « **on:** August 17, 2002, 12:10:19 PM »

I have never found a reference that any P-47 model could carry 500 or 1000 lb bombs on th wings, AND carry 10 5 inch rock's on the zero length launchers. However, I have found a reference that the late model D's could carry three 1K's!. 2 on the wings, and one on the ventral rack.

Here is a photo of a P-47D loaded for bear. 3x500 lb'ers and 4 rocks. This jug is the only reference I have seen with 3x bombs and rocks. Read in a bio of a 9th AF pilot recently that they could not fire their guns until their rocks were expended too. The ejected 50 cal casings could sever the rocket motor fire wires.

hazed- · « **Reply #1 on:** August 17, 2002, 12:43:58 PM »

can you find the max loadout pictures for p51ds or p38s as well?

I have only seen rocket OR bomb loadouts for these 2.

ALSO there is as far as i can tell no hardpoints on the F4uC model and even references in some books about how the hardpoints were ADDED to the D model.Maybe ill dig them out..

anyhow i doubt this will ever be looked into by HTC, seems ive seen this many times and no one ever puts a picture up with these maximum loadouts and nothings changed in AH.

all planes with questionable loadouts as i see it:

P47's
P51D
P38
F6F
all of which in books have a 'rocket OR bomb' description.
F4uc (did it carry bombs at all?)

and then theres:

Ju88(torpedoes and 20x50kg bombs?? no references i can find)
B17s (i know theres a fuel/range reason but it should carry more with option to take less fuel? it should have up to 17,600lbs!!!)

ok thats it

but it is pretty important to get it accurate if you ask me.

brady · « **Reply #2 on:** August 17, 2002, 07:27:07 PM »

Nice Pic's ammo, I took the liberty of snaging them:)

Yes ordance loadout options are a universaly contraversal point, in AH. Time to sit down with my 100k again.

Hortlund · « **Reply #3 on:** August 17, 2002, 07:46:01 PM »

That is one UGLY aircraft. Looks like a swollen pregnant pig.

NOD2000 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 17, 2002, 08:02:40 PM »

well how about this one..................england 1943 july 15 a b-17 runs down the runway with 16,000lbs of bombs and makes it air born............flying to france and bombing a v-1 site.........

or the b-26 that took 6,000 and took off with 8,000lbs of bombs..............hmmmmmmmmm wellllll..............

whgates3 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 17, 2002, 09:27:18 PM »

if the B-17 was given the option of carrying a full load of bombs, would there be any reason to fly a Lanc (unless you want to fly between angels 10 & 15, where the Lanc is a few MPH faster)?

-ammo- · « **Reply #6 on:** August 17, 2002, 11:41:00 PM »

steve74--

You are disillusioned, and maybe weary.

Brady-- NP at all:)

Hazed-- Sory mate. My p-38 and corsair references are lacking. My interest's are more in P-47's. Maybe F4UDOA and fester can help out. I think we will find that the f4U-1C did have several ordinance options though. As for the P-38. I know that thing could carry 2 1K's with ease.

Shiva · « **Reply #7 on:** August 17, 2002, 11:52:53 PM »

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if the B-17 was given the option of carrying a full load of bombs, would there be any reason to fly a Lanc (unless you want to fly between angels 10 & 15, where the Lanc is a few MPH faster)?

As it's currently modelled in the MA, no; the problem with taking the full 16,000-pound bomb load in a B-17 was that the extra bomb load was stored externally, and all the bombs hanging in the airstream created enough additional drag that it hosed the B-17's maximum range. The B-17 was only able to lift such a bomb load over comparatively short distances -- which, unfortunately, compare favorably with the distances to targets in the MA.

NOD2000 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 18, 2002, 12:04:58 AM »

i think that they should let the 17 have accual load along with the lanc haing the tall boy and the grand slam and if they add the b-29 superfortress they should add the external racks to carry 2 grand slams that flew over japan on 15 diffrent missions

Mitsu · « **Reply #9 on:** August 18, 2002, 12:47:46 AM »

ammo, one question.

Were there white jugs?

Aces High's D-jug is white.

But the jug in your picture is silver (it seems Duralmin skin).

Animal · « **Reply #10 on:** August 18, 2002, 12:53:51 AM »

Mitsu I think AH's jug (and pony) are modelled after unpainted samples, but AH doesnt model reflection so it looks white.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #11 on:** August 18, 2002, 05:12:48 AM »

Anyway, white sucks... can't wait for our HTC artists to find an alternative.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #12 on:** August 18, 2002, 05:18:27 AM »

Hey Ammo, i saw this green P47 carrying waaaaaaaaaay more than 10 rockets and 3 bombs.

whgates3 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 18, 2002, 06:51:34 AM »

thats a thunderbolt, but its not a P-47 (the green one).
jets are for sissies who cant beat torque by stoping a rudder pedal

Mark Luper · « **Reply #14 on:** August 18, 2002, 07:21:25 AM »

Actually in AH there isn't near enough pedal stomping torque to contend with, just a little bit to let you know it had some. Now in the early days of beta...