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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2002, 11:19:02 AM »
I have travelled extensively as well.  Not, however to any muslim countries.

I don't see what this has to do with US sponsered terrorism in Muslim counties.

Monk saying you were in Beirut form 82-86 doesn't prove a thing.  Are you saying that the US didn't train and arm OBL, the Muhajadin and Hussein?  

I've answer your question, now answer mine.

How many times has the US attacked a Muslim country in the past 20 years? How many times has the CIA gone in and trained and armed rebels in muslim countries?

PS: What were you doing in Beirut.
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2002, 11:24:24 AM »
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Monk saying you were in Beirut form 82-86 doesn't prove a thing.    


It means he has a perspective that you do not have.

I've done a little traveling in Pakistan.

What Monk says.

Of course Thrawn, being on the ground there doesn't count as much as someone who just hasn't but has an opinion on it.

I'll take a stab at answering your question this way....

The US certainly did not help the Muslim situation, but, compared to how the Muslims are running it, we didn't really do that much harm to it either.

Cobra
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2002, 11:25:20 AM »
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I have travelled extensively as well.  Not, however to any muslim countries.

I don't see what this has to do with US sponsered terrorism in Muslim counties.

Monk saying you were in Beirut form 82-86 doesn't prove a thing.  Are you saying that the US didn't train and arm OBL, the Muhajadin and Hussein?  

I've answer your question, now answer mine.

How many times has the US attacked a Muslim country in the past 20 years? How many times has the CIA gone in and trained and armed rebels in muslim countries?

PS: What were you doing in Beirut.


Answer my question Thrawn.

Thrawn, you ever gone out of your way to do something good, but it turns out bad because of circumstances out of your control?



Again, OBL was to fight the Communists trying to take Afghanistan, something that started out in ours (and Afghanistans) best interest.

We'd just finished having a crisis with Iran, Iraq was at war with them, they were a natural to be our allie in that period of time.
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2002, 11:28:00 AM »
Cobra, fair enough.  However, Monk didn't say anything about the situation, just that he was there, and I should "Let it go.".

Rip, yes.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2002, 11:30:18 AM »
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The Shaw of Iran was that example, goodness, with a democrasy that gave stability to the middle east...turned bad because of his personal greed.  That was  a seed for Anti-Americanism.  Just one example...


Iran was a Monarchy under the Shah. The citizens were just as repressed as they are today and eventually they revolted. Basically we supported his regeme with arms, training, whatever- but there were no democratic freedoms like elections, so don't point to Iran as an example of democracy in the region. And any "stability" in the region was at the barrel of a gun. (Sorry, was there in '73)
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2002, 11:30:31 AM »
Iraq? but why?........oh geez... I forgot, was there to :(
Afganistan?.....Ok, but why?
Beirut?...didn't attack.
Somalia?.....didn't attack, but maybe we should, for old time sake.
and the CIA does alot less then you think.
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2002, 11:32:28 AM »
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Cobra, fair enough.  However, Monk didn't say anything about the situation, just that he was there, and I should "Let it go.".
 


Thrawn, do you know why we were in Beirut?
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2002, 11:34:22 AM »
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Iran was a Monarchy under the Shah. The citizens were just as repressed as they are today and eventually they revolted. Basically we supported his regeme with arms, training, whatever- but there were no democratic freedoms like elections, so don't point to Iran as an example of democracy in the region. And any "stability" in the region was at the barrel of a gun. (Sorry, was there in '73)


That pretty much somes up the Muslim world. but the U.S. is used a an excuse.
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2002, 11:43:42 AM »
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PS: What were you doing in Beirut. [/B]


digging my buddies out:(
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2002, 11:45:52 AM »
As far as I know it was because Isreal kept bombing it.
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2002, 11:46:31 AM »
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digging my buddies out:(


Crap.

Sorry Monk.
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2002, 11:47:56 AM »
Mhh, I was about to disagree with Monk about all Muslim countries being the same, and started Typing a list of countries that were not Gun-totting today.

Egypt...
and
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errr....
couldn't find any other.

I discovered I have to agree with you now :)

[edit: was posted at the same time]
Ouch :(
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2002, 11:58:41 AM »
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Crap.

Sorry Monk.


Don't worry about it stud.......I know who did it:mad
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2002, 12:14:31 AM »
Dont rely on the school system to teach your kids anything about world affairs or politics.  You have to do it yourself.

Once it is fully realized and the appropriate self preserving actions are taken -it will be a terrible war, terribly one sided.

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Monk, were you there on October 23rd, 1983?

If so, I salute you and your fellow Marines.  Especially the 241 Marines, Sailors, and Soldiers who died as a result of the suicide attack.

http://www.beirut-memorial.org/memory/brtnames.html

Semper-Fidelis
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2002, 12:23:04 AM »
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and you know teachers will not teach about the US policies that were a cause of 9/11 in the first place


diddly  You!!!!
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