Author Topic: The B24 Liberator!! (Read 1632 times)

hyena426 · « **on:** August 22, 2002, 02:56:03 PM »

there is a very importaint bomber being left out,,that should be brung out,,,,the b24 liberator,,, bigger payload than a b17,,,more powerull motors,,climed much better,,,,and it was usa's first air force one for the president ,,,,,,very popular bomber,,and it was used just as much,,or more than b17,,,,but for some reason,,its allways forgotten in ww2 sims,,,thought i would try and remind some people of one of the usa's great bombers that should be in here

brady · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2002, 04:07:54 PM »

OK, OK, Who Knows what I am thinking?????

Kevin14 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2002, 04:22:04 PM »

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Originally posted by brady
OK, OK, Who Knows what I am thinking?????

I agree?

, yeah we could use the B-24, a great book about some liberator pilots is "The Wild Blue" by Stephen Ambrose

Airscrew · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2002, 04:50:01 PM »

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OK, OK, Who Knows what I am thinking?????

Maybe that this is the 231st post on requesting the B24.

or maybe

Gee, I remember when I was new.

Hyena, also cant be 100% sure, need to do some checking but I believe the first official Air Force One was a C54 or C118 for Harry Truman, around 1947.
I think Roosevelt did use a B24 / C-109, or early C54

hyena426 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2002, 04:52:13 PM »

ya,,well,,i know it was a good bomber,,and one of the only bombers made that the wing span was longer that the plane its self,,lol,,,,so it could carry huge payload and still clime ok ,,and it had bigger motors,,,,good plane,,and i never seen it used in a combat sim yet,,,,maybe aces high could be one of the first,,,it was a very produced plane in ww2,,,no reason it shouldnt be here allready

hyena426 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2002, 04:57:47 PM »

on history channel,,it said the c47,,was going to be the first,,but,,somthing about harry never used his plane,,,and by the time Roosevelt got in,,he couldnt get up in a c47,,so they used a liberator because it had a low back door he could clime in easly,,,,thats atleast what the history channel said,,,my dad flown on the only b24 liberator left,,i could have,,but it was like 300bucks for a ride,,didnt have that kind a money to blow on a hour ride then,,,but my dad sure had a blast and recorded it all,,lol

senna · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2002, 04:58:41 PM »

WB has a B-24. The lib is also faster than the 17.

hyena426 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2002, 05:03:04 PM »

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Gee, I remember when I was new

who ya calling new?,,ehahe

whgates3 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2002, 05:39:05 PM »

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,,,,and it [B-24] was usa's first air force one for the president ,,,,,,

ok, so how many FDRs do we have to drop on a hangar to take it out... |_ () |_ ... but seriously, even more interesting than the B-24, might be the PB4Y-2 Privateer patrol bomber, which had heavier defensive armament (althought little belly protection) & carried tordonuts (i think). although a lesser know A/C, (i suspect this is why many privateer are still in active use as fire bombers. i'd bet no B-24s are being used as such) and much less used A/C, it is not quite so similar to the B-17 and so, maybe, there would be more arguments for it's inclusion. i suspect the real sentiment is for an axis heavy to be put in before another allied one...JU-290 or Emily!

john9001 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 22, 2002, 05:59:52 PM »

yes to B24

BTW "air force one ' is a call sign not a air plane and was first used during JFK's term

air force and private planes use tail numbers for call signs , commerical planes use flight numbers for callsigns and there was confusion between the two so any plane the prez is on is air force one only when he is on it, vice-prez 's plane is air force two, the marine hellicopter that flys the prez is marine corp one

SELECTOR · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2002, 06:24:24 PM »

Liberator would be great.100% behind you on that one..
but also as important was the halifax, He111, B29 ,Do17..

fdiron · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2002, 06:25:38 PM »

B17 has a faster maximum speed than the B24, but the B24 has a higher 'cruising' speed.

The B24 had a long, thin Davis wing. This helped helped the '24 to cruise at a high speed, but it was a step down in everything else compared to the B17. B17s have actually done rolls and loops before.

B17s dropped more tonnage of bombs than any other aircraft in World War II.

cajun · « **Reply #12 on:** August 22, 2002, 06:40:56 PM »

B-24 would be a great addition & I'd love to see it, but we already have a ton of US bombers, so my guess is we'll get an Italian, German, Russian or japanese bomber...

Nefarious · « **Reply #13 on:** August 22, 2002, 07:55:52 PM »

B24's would be easy meat, but we do need it.

From reading Ambrose's Wild Blue, He said the B24 was a fragile plane and could not absorb damage like the fortress.

hyena426 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 22, 2002, 08:13:46 PM »

only reason b17 would out drop most bombers,,was because of numbers,,,,,usa produced the hell out of them,,,not because of how much they could carry,,because liberator and lancaster and b29 beat it bad in payload size,,,,,wild blue said it was weak,,but lancaster pilots on the history channel said it was tuff,,,,,people that really flew them,,talk them up pretty good,,but everyone does that,,,says there bomber is better than the othere guys,,,,but the b24 needs to be here,,and it would kick butt over a b26 anyday of the week,,lol