The B24 Liberator!!

[BenDover]

Originally posted by Snoopy22
Look on the bright side Ben, Aces High is alot fairer than Warbirds3 when it comes to bombers, they don't have lancasters,
its an abomination i tell you! outrageous! Seriously though I think that rather than piling on more and more aircraft, perhaps HT would like to spend the next patch on overhauling the older aircraft textures and general appearance perhaps even introduce a more complex damage model, then once they're all looking as good as each other, than we start adding on some more aircraft.  However I think perhaps a fair rota system would be appropriate so as to keep a balance between the number of aircraft for each country.  Folk from other countries, although grateful for the US contribution and valuable efforts, don't want to feel pushed aside by the USA, after all this is meant to be a game that spans the greatest airborne conflict to date and as it was a world war we just want our efforts recognised.

Thank you snoppy for putting it into words that I'm not nice enough to write


btw, if you think i'm a jerk, come meet my school mates

[Puke]

Out of 71 planes, nearly half of them are american, don't ya think its time we got some planes on the lower half of the table?

this is a game based on ww2, not the frigging american civil war with planes!

That's because unlike most other combatants, USA was in all the major theaters of war and generally speaking, fielded several aircraft that were pretty much theater specific.  So you'd have us choose between either a Corsair or Pony?

I say bring the B-24 to the game.  I like the impact the heavies have in Aces High and would suspect the Buffers would enjoy a new model to tote around in.

[Soviet]

Note 7 american bombers, that's more than all the other countries bombers COMBINED.

B-24 PFFFFT come on, HTs resources could be better spent on adding plane for Italy, Japan, and Russia, planesets that are in DESPRATE need of more planes.

6 overall planes for the Japanese forces is a DISGRACE.

[whgates3]

i think both sides of the argument have been pretty thouroughly made...so which bomber is most needed (which bomber, that is not in AH & would be used if it were, is most needed to complete a historical planeset?) ?
IMHO - Betty.
dont think He111 or Po-2 would be popular.  italians were relatively minor players.  Betty is at least fast, has heavy devensive armament and carries tordonuts as well as bombs

also - i count 8 non-american bombers:  Ar234, Boston, D3a, IL-2, Ju88, Ki-67, Lanc, Mossie

[brady]

The Betty would be redundant as well, It is not so well defended as you might think those are type 99MK I cannon's not MK II's the Peggy Is a much better plane, I would rather see some Japanese CV strike planes added as apposed to the Betty.

 I think lumping all those other countryies and stacking them up aganst the numbers modeled for the US is a big help in proving the case for the adation of planes for other countries NOT the US.

  It's the whole god's gift attitude that kinda shins through, ya know the ugly American. I dont mean you Mr Gates I mean in general.


    The Boston is a US plane, the British bought it thats all, as did the French and some other countries, but it is A US bomber, I don't see us calling that P 47 a Brazilian plane, or that P 40 Chinese, or the 109 Finish, the Boston is American.

 I think realy the most telling aspect of the addations being one sided is when we get the doubles thing, like two wildcats, two P 40's, two Boston's, one Zero at a time. Don't get wrong I do enjoy the new toys but it is not helping matter's.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by whgates3
also - i count 8 non-american bombers:  Ar234, Boston, D3a, IL-2, Ju88, Ki-67, Lanc, Mossie

The Mosquito is not a bomber.  The Mosquito we have is a fighter/bomber.  Meaning multi-role aircraft with fighter performance.  Look through the kill records and mission records.  Mosquito Mk VIs were used as fighters against Germany and have many kills of German fighters and bombers. Those missions were not something that a bomber would have been used for.  Further, the Mosquito Mk VI was used by Fighter Command and Coastal Command, not Bomber Command.

There were many Mosquito bombers, we just don't have any of them in AH.

The Ar234 is completely broken and worthless at this time and counting it is disingenuous.  180 perk points for no effect is pure BS.

[whgates3]

you're both unpatriotic.
i'm telling john ashcroft.
;- þ

[brady]

Hey man, America is a big melting pot whear people(planes) from all countries come to add thier flavor to the soop, to make it better stronger and more interesting, right now the Soop(ah) neads a little somting to spice it up, it's a little to bland.

[NOD2000]

WTF is soop??????????????? oh u mean soup

[BenDover]

soup nazi, hehe

"No soup for you!"

[brady]

LOL, I thought of that as I typed it:)

[whgates3]

lol

[whgates3]

Further, the Mosquito Mk VI was used by Fighter Command and Coastal Command, not Bomber Command.

The Mosquito Mk VI was used by 141 squadron (among others), 100 group, Bomber Command, possibly as a napalm bomber, but mostly as a night fighter

[hyena426]

oooooohh,,new life,,old thread,,hehehahe    

Hyena, also cant be 100% sure, need to do some checking but I believe the first official Air Force One was a C54 or C118 for Harry Truman, around 1947.

well you can check on that majortom,,but the c84<~~~all so known as the b24 liberator} was the first official air force one:)

[Tilt]

For me there is only one reason to have a b24



Ploesti!


well its a good reason...........