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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2002, 10:52:52 PM »
Liberals are always so understanding and sympathetic of criminals...... as long as they are not the victoms.

How do you make a conservative? Mug a liberal


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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2002, 10:55:54 PM »
Nuke your statement would be interesting except a lot of us who think this sentence is crap are not liberals by any stretch of the imagination.  People who would put a mentally disabled minor in jail for 10 years for stealing beer MAKE ME SICK.

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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2002, 10:57:25 PM »
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I'll take him living next to me.  If you take him living next to you when he gets out of jail.


No Thrawn, sorry but if I had my druthers I'd prefer this young perp have to do 8.5 years in a Florida penetentary as opposed to getting a slap on the wrist and moving into my neighborhood. I'm not intrested in having a four time convicted felon living next door to me even if he is only 17 years old. As far as I'm concerned I'm glad society won't be a victim for this POS for 8 1/2 years  and I only hope that after his eventual release he's caught the first time he pulls a strong-arm robbery or assaults somebody and he's given a three strikes sentance and locked up forever. Sorry, but Society has trash, and this kid- plus his whiney, drug addicted single parent mother- are dregs and burdens on a society that really can no longer afford indulging the trashier segment of human debris.

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2002, 11:12:23 PM »
ya know... Effie said
"10 years seems bout right to me, but I doubt this dumb bellybutton will ever learn."

then Kierian Yup, turn him loose... then hope he moves right next door to the guys crying for lighter sentences.

then nuke Liberals are always so understanding and sympathetic of criminals...... as long as they are not the victoms.


You guys along with that judge should be locked up for 10 years in an Ashcroft camp for the crime of hate. Your insane.. a 16 year old?

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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2002, 11:14:09 PM »
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Originally posted by NUKE
Liberals are always so understanding and sympathetic of criminals...... as long as they are not the victoms.

How do you make a conservative? Mug a liberal


Liberals make me sick


guy stole a 6 pack of beer..and got 10 years of hard time for it..at 17 years old..
I would give him a 6 pack a week to keep him out of prison for christ sakes.

give your retarded head a shake.
How long do you think that the CEOs will get for stealing millions of cases of beer...
How much do you think the Judges son would get for such a pathetic crime.

This is right up there with the packistani gang rape thread.

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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2002, 11:18:24 PM »
No Thrawn, sorry but if I had my druthers I'd prefer this young perp have to do 8.5 years in a Florida penetentary as opposed to getting a slap on the wrist and moving into my neighborhood.

No problem Effie, he'll move in your neighborhood after he does the 8.5 years... sheesh

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2002, 12:02:59 AM »
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No Thrawn, sorry but if I had my druthers I'd prefer this young perp have to do 8.5 years in a Florida penetentary as opposed to getting a slap on the wrist and moving into my neighborhood.

No problem Effie, he'll move in your neighborhood after he does the 8.5 years... sheesh


No thanks 10Bears, parole the kid to Hawaii instead. I heve no desire to have a four time convicted felon living in my neighborhood, rather he's 17 of 77. Some people are genetically defective and they're predisposed to commit crimes. Obviously the judge saw something in this young man that made him feel like he deserved a lengthy prison sentance rather than the song-and-dance routine until he's 25 years old the juvenile justice system offers. Maybe it was the three prior violent felonies on his juvenile record or the smirks on his face as he flashed peace signs to his oh-so-protectant mother but whatever the judge saw I can find no fault with putting away repeat violent felons for as long as we possibly can. Sorry.

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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2002, 12:30:17 AM »
The kid is certainly troubled, but bad enough to get 10 years in prison at the age of 16?!  You people are nuts.  The judge should have listened to the recommendations of the Dept of Corrections or the Dept of Juvenille Justice.


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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2002, 12:34:42 AM »
Sounds like he never had someone take his sorry bellybutton outside and pull the old belt across it a couple of dozen times. When someone says the following they are just plainly showing their stupidity. If I had done ONE of those pre-cursors to stealing the beer and escaping I seriously doubt I would be sitting here typing this tonight. If my Dad was not able (Army guy not home alot) handle the situation you can bet that my Grandfather or Uncle would have gladly helped my Mom with me.

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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2002, 12:51:17 AM »
I have seen D.I.'s cure bipolar disorders, overnight. To bad the Army doesn't do that anymore.

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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2002, 02:47:43 AM »
Whether or not the little turd is a habitual criminal or suffers a mental handicap is kind of tough to decide.  We haven't heard both sides of the past incidents to decide which is the case.  Do I think that the 10 year sentence for stealing beer is harsh?  Yeah, if that is all it was.  He was charged with petty theft (which I think would cover the $5 six pack) along with burglary and escape.  

In addition, the only thing that we know about his past is mainly from the mother.  I will tell you, as someone who is responsible for student discipline, the excuses that the mom uses for these various incidents seem very familiar.  I can understand exactly what the judge was thinking.  Parents will make excuses to protect their kids.  They do this when they come into my office trying to get their kids out of detention, probation, suspension and expulsion.  Until you actually have dealt with parents "defending" their child's actions in a detached, professional situation, it is tough to understand why the judge did what he did.  I understand it, though that doesn't mean that I think 10 years is reasonable.  I also think, given the history, that the recommended sentences seem a bit inadequate as well.

Anyways, I am kind of in agreement with most people concerning what this kid is going to be like when he gets out.  During his time inside, that little toejam will become one bad mother.  You know them barbell lifting and pedophile torturing gigantors will teach this turd the secrets of gymkata.  If this happens, we all better watch out.  This kid will GYMKATA our tulips straight to hell!!!!!!!

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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2002, 06:42:19 AM »
Elfenwoof arches back in his computer chair a smile draping across his face, satisfied how he explained it all to 10Bears about that bandit pre felon he was ready to hit the hay as they say in the midwest. Yeah who needs those undesirables in our fine society. Why, all they want to do is grow up and rob people. Effie goes outside to make sure the can lights are all adjusted correctly on the largest American flag in the neighborhood, and then it’s lights out at a proper decent hour in the heartland.

The next morning Ellfinwoof remembers he has a meeting in Eau Clair about 40 miles away. So he’s off first to buy $10.00 worth of gas. Standing there pumping away he ponders just what a great country this is. “Ah Geese now look what I did”  the pump meter reads $10.03. He reaches into his pocket for the three cents but remembers his lovely wife of twenty years had put out a freshly pressed pair of pants and there’s no change! He checks the cab of his dairy truck “gosh darn” he exclaims no change there either. “the lady at the gas station will just have to understand” he reasons.

“I’m sorry sir” the lady exclaims “IF THE PUMP READS $10.03 THEN THAT’S WHAT I WANT!”
“Will that’s fine” Elfenwolf replies “I’ll be happy to drive by tomorrow and give you your damn three cents”
“DON’T CUSS AT ME, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?... IF YOU DON’T GIVE ME THAT THREE CENTS RIGHT THIS SECOND I’LL BE FORCED TO CALL THE POLICE!!!!!”
Laughing “Ma’am, with all due respect, if you call the police over three measly cents the cops might haul you off to jail for wasting their time”

And with that Elfenwolf hops into his dairy truck and roars out of the station and onto the highway. “silly woman” he wonders out loud. Fifteen minutes pass and as the slightly rolling hills give way to ever changing farmlands. He hopes his business in Eau Clare doesn’t take much time as he is hoping to get back to his computer soon enough for some more Ace’s High fun. Some emergency vehicles are approaching from the rear, there must be an accident up ahead he thought.

PULL OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD blared the Wisconsin State patrol car speaker Me? thought Elfenwolf quickly pulling over
“KEEP YOUR HANDS OUT THE WINDOW” barked the trooper”
“WALK BACKWARDS TO THE BACK OF THE TRUCK” Elfenwolf did as he was told. “NOW GET ON THE GROUND FACE DOWN!!!”
“face down?... officers... wait.. I can explain” blurted the shocked Elfenwolf
“WHAT’S THE MATTER YOU DON’T diddlyIN’ SPEAKIE THE ENGLISH? I SAID FACE DOWN!!!!!” Screamed the police officer  

Once the prep was firmly secured and mirandized he was shoved rudely into the back of the cruiser.
“Listen officers, I have a very important meeting at the University of Wisconsin and am already late, I....
“Hey did you hear that Charlie?... This piece of toejam has a meeting at the University of Wisconsin” Heh-heh-heh-heh chortled Charlie. “Say, what did you say your name was?”. “Elfenwolf sir”
“Elfenshit was it?”
“Uh.. no sir that’s Elfenwo...”
“Well no matter, you can tell it to the judge.

“Alright Mr. Elfenshit you can step out of the car now. We have finger printing, mug shots, and full FBI check to make sure your not one of those terrorists.”
“Um.. excuse me”
“What is it now Elfenshit?”
“That’s Elfenwolf”
“Yeah whatever, what do ya want?”
“What am I being charged with?”
“What are you being charged with... hey did you hear that Charlie?.. Your being charged with thief of gasoline a class C felony in this state.
“But I paid for the... “
“Hey dumbshit, don’t make our jobs any harder, the gas station attendant told us you didn’t’ pay. Now if you please, step right this way we have a cozy little room for you to sit in.  
“I want to speak to an attorney”
“Don’t worry you’ll get your one phone call you can call your attorney or if you don’t have money the court will assign you a public defender.”

Forty-five minutes pass. Poor Elfenwolf.. What to do.. When they finally allow him to make his one phone call should he call his wife? She could call a lawyer and rush down with the bail money-- Oh the trauma what a nightmare! What if she laughs when he explains this whole matter is over three diddlying cents.. oh my he thought... I said a cuss word! That’s what happens when they throw you in the slammer.. you start saying BAD words..

“Mr. Elfenwolf? Hi I’m your public defender Fran Colter.”
“Public defender? but I...”
 “Mr. Elfenwolf how do you want to plead in this case?”
“I’m not guilty of any...”
“You say your not guilty of defrauding a gas station attendant?”
“Well I.. I didn’t have any... this is all very silly and besides I‘m very hungry and want a hot dish”
 “Mr. Elfenwolf if you plead not guilty your be placed in county lock up for five days until your trial. If you plead no contest I can get you out of here today.. Arraignment is in 15 minutes..” “What!! 15 minutes??”
“They do things fast around here.”

All rise the right honorable Judge Fritz Hollings presiding.
Bailiff : case number 37532 Airhead Elfenwolf
Judge: “Mr Elfenwolf how do you plead?”
Effie:  “Well your honor, this lady wants me to plead no contest”
Judge: “Is the defendant ready for sentencing?”
Effie:  Sentencing?... wait a minute just hold your horses, this is supposed to be just the arraignment.
Miss Colter: In Wisconsin a no contest verdict the defendant can be sentenced the very same day.
Judge: “Will the defendant please stand, Mr. Airhead Elfenwolf I sentence you to 10 years in the Wisconsin State Penitentiary.
Effie “WHAT!!! SAY WHAT..... what did he say?????” there must be some mistake! there must be some mistake!!!
Judge: WHAP!! “next case”

(To be cont. 1AM here.. need to work in morning)

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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2002, 07:01:39 AM »
I would have given him 20 if he let the beer get warm.   He's a punk anyways.  Later Beer-clepto.

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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2002, 07:19:38 AM »
What's worse is when the jail sentance is at the other end of the spectrum.  


Here in the UK a 19yr old ploughed into a pedestrian after an all day drinking session.  He had never had a driving lesson in his life and had "borrowed" his dad's car.  The 53yr old victim was in a coma 3 weeks and his still presently in hospital. He cannot sit or stand, is incontinent and has to be fed through a peg in his stomach-  he expected never to fully recover.


The 19yr old got 9 months!!!


Ooops, forgot to add it was a hit and run.  The kid  ran from the scene after he had hit the 53 yr old.
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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2002, 08:30:48 AM »
The kid that broke into my house has broken into dozens of others (according to other kids that know/knew him)  he has been caught for a lot of petty crime and has spent some time in jail on and off... His parents have washed their hands of him and he has stolen from them and relatives on numerous occassions.   He is a worhless POS and a one man/boy petty crime wave.   If he has anything of value.... it used to belong to someone else and they don't know he has it.

If he were sent to prison for ten years then everyone would get a ten year break from him.    

that's really all there is to it.
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