Author Topic: Hero's WW2 Online review (Read 1214 times)

Sox62 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 04, 2002, 03:21:31 AM »

To do so would involve writing code.....LOL.

Saintaw · « **Reply #46 on:** September 04, 2002, 04:20:58 AM »

Great review ! sounds a bit like my experience too. (I've given it 3 tries(sp?)).

One good experience I had was being alone at night in the woods, hearing a Brit tank close to me... I crawled for hours trying to evade it. scary !

Only to discover that it wa a sound bug and that the tank was probably miles away from me.

Haven't tried BF1942 yet.

Hajo · « **Reply #47 on:** September 04, 2002, 06:03:23 AM »

This is what irks me to no end. The problem I have is that cornered rat put the game on the market knowing that it wouldn't run, run smoothly, and had a myriad of bugs. System specs were way out of line etc. I bought the game....and took it back. Cornered Rat is not the only company that does this....but WW2OL was undoubtedly the most bug ridden piece of software I've ever purchased in my lifetime. For that simple reason I would not consider trying the game again......they took the general public as a whole as a group of morons with little intelligence and a lot of anticipation . Anything that takes 512 RAM to run poorly is designed poorly considering it's a game.

Kieran · « **Reply #48 on:** September 04, 2002, 07:25:44 AM »

But that is the point, isn't it Fishu? BF1942 doesn't pretend to be something it isn't, and accomplishes exactly what it sets out to do. As for Delta Force, does it have transitions like BF1942? Anyway, once again we are straying from the point- BF1942 handles transitions better than anything I've seen out there, period. Pointing back to how complex WWIIOL is doesn't change that point at all.

Another point Hardcase makes is about how damage is modeled. This one is a pet peeve of mine, because however complex it is, it doesn't work right, and never really has. Damage logs? I don't get great joy reading 'em, I'd rather a plane smoke and burn when I shoot it- like it should. They got the smoke right- trouble is, they can smoke for too long. I have this silly feeling if I was trailing smoke I would be leaving a fight, pronto, in real life. I also have this silly feeling that a hit to glycol on a liquid cooled engine would give me great cause for concern and I'd be thinking about getting out of the fight and on the ground ASAP, before I became chute fodder. We all know this is not true as a general rule in WWIIOL. Complex isn't necessarily better, especially when it doesn't work.

And if you think I am a BF1942 groupie, you're wrong. It is undeniable however they've accomplished something the Rats can't/won't.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #49 on:** September 04, 2002, 08:19:08 AM »

Hardcase NOT a cheerleader?!?!?

RIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!

Hell when you make love you probably make your partner say " I'm WWIIO!..I'M WWIIO!".

I bet when you fart it comes out sounding like "WWIIO is the best".

hardcase · « **Reply #50 on:** September 04, 2002, 01:21:22 PM »

Because I prefer it over WB and AH makes me a fanboy?

Did you happen to notice the bad release of Strike Fighter, or what ever its name is, known beta and pushed out the door. Published by Strategy First also. You know strat first published the second release of ww2ol PCE with the know bug of vidoe still on the cd install. You really think CRS wanted to release on june 6th?

I dont care if you dont like it. If you don't want to play then don't. I will always post in here if a new freebie shows up, or someone post some lame "review" based on a few hours of play on a questionable machine.

If you are so distraught over the perceived lies, come back at each freebie and check it out. Just found out the IO sysncing is being worked to on to stop the memory chunk load stuttering for machines with not enough ram.

farts,what makes you think i fart;-)

WW2OL has problems, crs knows what they are, they are being worked on, ,but the vitriol will always be answered.

hardcase

hardcase · « **Reply #51 on:** September 04, 2002, 01:32:17 PM »

Btw, Warbirds went thru the same squeaking ww2ol is going thru. '96 was a bad time for WB sincec the 2.00/hr price vs the gameplay. I think someday some of you will enjoy it, if not not the end of the world.

At least Odedipus can try it instead of living at the 6th of june. Very old news, beaten to death, and shows no experience lately.

hardcase

Curval · « **Reply #52 on:** September 04, 2002, 01:48:24 PM »

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Originally posted by hardcase
Because I prefer it over WB and AH makes me a fanboy?

Nope..its because you spent the time to register here and only post anything when it relates to WW2OL...and you ALWAYS jump to its defense.

THAT makes you a fanboy.

But, I was always considered a troll over there, so don't feel bad.

hardcase · « **Reply #53 on:** September 04, 2002, 02:02:41 PM »

Defense..I wish someone would review it by playing for a month, on a decent machine and do more that fly. Flying is a small part fo the war. Ground model of flying needs rework, graphical damage needs implementing, damange modeling needs looking at for the fluid leaks. There are a lot of things wrong with ww2ol. CRS had to scaramble with basic gameplay issues for the first 9 months and has only recently been able to address the issues. FPS, dumps, damage, I hope soon to be able to reload without spawning. But I just read a post about ctds lags etc on an AH scenerio. My bet is AH could use some looking at, but like CRS, Hitechcreations has only a limited amount of time to work on all. They fix what and where they can.

But all you greifers seem to have never done anything other than fly in ww2ol. If you only fly, you are missing more than 2/3rds of the sim. The ground war is just as important to gameplay as fligh.Tell Hitech he is wasting his time coding a ground war.') cause you guys won't even look at it.

Did you notice that i havent posted for quite a while, till someone posted that review
I flew AH for the 3 week trial. Biggest fitght I saw was 10 ppl, the gunnery was suspect, laser and long reaching. It is a good flighsim, but wasnt worth the money to me. I spent 6 years flying warbirds. I enjoy more than flying now.

hardcase

Curval · « **Reply #54 on:** September 04, 2002, 02:24:52 PM »

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Originally posted by hardcase
Defense..I wish someone would review it by playing for a month, on a decent machine and do more that fly. Flying is a small part fo the war. Ground model of flying needs rework, graphical damage needs implementing, damange modeling needs looking at for the fluid leaks. There are a lot of things wrong with ww2ol. CRS had to scaramble with basic gameplay issues for the first 9 months and has only recently been able to address the issues. FPS, dumps, damage, I hope soon to be able to reload without spawning. But I just read a post about ctds lags etc on an AH scenerio. My bet is AH could use some looking at, but like CRS, Hitechcreations has only a limited amount of time to work on all. They fix what and where they can.

But all you greifers seem to have never done anything other than fly in ww2ol. If you only fly, you are missing more than 2/3rds of the sim. The ground war is just as important to gameplay as fligh.Tell Hitech he is wasting his time coding a ground war.') cause you guys won't even look at it.

Did you notice that i havent posted for quite a while, till someone posted that review
I flew AH for the 3 week trial. Biggest fitght I saw was 10 ppl, the gunnery was suspect, laser and long reaching. It is a good flighsim, but wasnt worth the money to me. I spent 6 years flying warbirds. I enjoy more than flying now.

hardcase

Well, I played it for 8 months...I endured the head-shaking bug and numerous other "problems". I kept with it (bought lots of ram) and gave it up only after being harassed by a bunch of fan-boys on the boards who chased me outta there by pissing me off too much...all because I mentioned that the Char was too damn powerful. Petty? Maybe...but saying negative things on these boards doesn't attract the kind of presonal bull-shit attacks that I got over there in the WW2Ol "community".

I desparately tried to get my joystick to operate properly for months...attempting all those .kgm "fixes" that only made things worse....and I was NEVER able to fly long enough to even get into a fight. I would black-out and crash with only minor movements on my stick.

Decent machine? I have one...just needed to buy lots of ram. I refuse to spend another $1,500 on a better machine merely to play WW2OL. What is your definition of a decent machine...or more relevant, what is CRS' definition?

Maybe things are better...but frankly I enjoy it here. I have had NO technical issues with AH..the people here are great and I even flew all the way to the Con in Texas to meet my squaddies and others from the game. A much, much different experience to the one I had in WW2OL.

Kieran · « **Reply #55 on:** September 04, 2002, 04:47:18 PM »

Griefers? Only play one aspect?

Look... you post stuff, I rebut. I do so respectfully. I think I have attempted to be very thoughtful about it. Now I know I can't convince you that a single complaint I have is legitimate, but you sure can't expect to convince me I didn't see what I saw- and yes, I did fly, tank, float, and walk. I also spent 7 months or so in the game. I have a pretty fair idea what the game is, how it's played, and what its weaknesses are. Now maybe some people here are very strongly worded about how they feel about WWIIOL, but what do you expect? You are on the AH boards defending a game that many have obviously chosen not to play!

I do check in on the game occasionally, I am keeping a current version, and when it looks like something really different has happened I re-up. This is more than you've ever done for AH I suspect, so careful how you sling accusations...

...Which reminds me, if you really are only defending the truth here, where are you on the WWIIOL boards rebutting lies about AH? I sure have missed those posts when they happened- both yours and Fishu's apparently. I find this particularly interesting, because all the time I was there, I saw only the occasional player mention AH, a few guys would talk about how crappy it was, then the issue was dropped. It seems the AH players who also played WWIIOL had the common sense to know not to defend AH so deep in unfriendly territory- or where it was obvious it was inappropriate.

This is not to say you shouldn't talk positive about WWIIOL- of course you should, if you really believe it is a good game. OTOH becoming filled with righteous indignation because you are received negatively here while proselytizing for CRS is a bit naive, isn't it?

You post the truth as you see it, I'll do the same.

Oh, and if I find the land battles nothing more than a yawnfest, I sure don't think my opinion should be discounted. That sim is supposed to have the best flight model out there- which is what I want, and all I want. I think CRS is very hyperbolic to call it the best, but hey, they are supposed to exaggerate, right? And anyway, it is kinda fun... until you realize there are serious damage model issues... which BTW is also supposed to be the best in the biz... more hyperbole... anyway, if it can't deliver a better experience in the air than can AH or WB or Il-2 or FA or whatever... why should I concern myself?

Staga · « **Reply #56 on:** September 04, 2002, 05:07:54 PM »

I did re-subscribed to wwiiol couple weeks ago and imo it has better damage model than AH has. Few MG rounds can kill the pilot but usually it takes much more lead to get a kill.
Sometimes when engine got a hit it runs 15 minutes after that and sometimes it stops faster than I can say "chit".
One thing I'm missing, with structural limits, is visible damage.
Also when pilot is wounded I like more the way that game handles it.
Oh and those icons are great.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #57 on:** September 04, 2002, 05:11:26 PM »

Look Fanboy I tried WWIIO several times in everything they have so don't try to tell me I didn't give it a chance.

I was more of a tanker so I was in them as much as that POS would let me. I didn't fly very much but when I did it was a joke.

My machine is a 1.7 ghz 1 gig mem 40 gig HD with a GF4 128meg card so don't try to tell me it's my machine.

The bugs never got fixed and the lies just kept coming so sell your BS somewhere else. You want to play that POS... fine! You want to come over here and spread CRS lies....Fine! Just don't be to suprised when we tell you you are full of toejam!

Staga · « **Reply #58 on:** September 04, 2002, 05:22:07 PM »

As you can see both games have their share of mature players.

Kieran · « **Reply #59 on:** September 04, 2002, 05:26:35 PM »

Staga-

I concede there are aspects of WWIIOL that are better- pilot injury and icons would be on that list, along with atmosphere. I never see a reciprocal response from the other side- do you?