Author Topic: More Info About the Pic (Read 978 times)

Seagoon · « **on:** August 31, 2002, 03:44:21 PM »

...is available here. Possibly this is the same Air France pilot who took out a chain link fence:

http://www.merchantexport.com/StMaartenAirFrance747Landing.htm

Animal · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2002, 03:52:48 PM »

I dont think that picture is real. The plane looks to small in relation to the distance it was from the person who took the shot.

Kratzer · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2002, 04:50:57 PM »

That's the fakest crap I've ever seen.

Nice shadow. What's that you say? Oh yeah, there isn't one.

gatso · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2002, 05:08:55 PM »

Might even be genuine I'm afraid. Normal approach looks something like this apparently:

Other side:

Saw these pics ages ago. They circulated round our Aerospace course while I was at University.

Gatso

rogwar · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2002, 05:13:12 PM »

It's real. I've been there and watched the planes land. It's quite a sight. Some of the angles make the plane look closer to the ground than it really is at that moment. However, they are quite low on final approach at that point. I don't know about the stories though of dragging a fence and such.

Seagoon · « **Reply #5 on:** August 31, 2002, 05:15:29 PM »

Believe whatever you want to guys, I've been to St. Martin (St. Maarten) and the Jumbos do have to scream in low over the beach to make the field which is juuuuuust big enough for them. And do you seriously think an Air France pilot wouldn't clip the link fence.

BTW - the pic has been posted to pilot sites as well.

- SEAGOON

Heinkel · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2002, 05:22:08 PM »

Yep, those are real, when I was @ St. Martin in SUmmer 2001, I was standing on that same exact road watching planes fly 25 ft. over head...I took some pictures..lemme see if i can fidn them...

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2002, 05:46:11 PM »

It's a real picture, it has been around the pilot comunauty for ages. In France, approaching St Martin is as famous as approcahing Kai Tak (now closed).

NUKE · « **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2002, 08:32:52 PM »

Its real.

goaly · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2002, 02:07:54 PM »

This last one looks very nice. But save the image and use a viewer to enlarge it. I mean REALLY zoom in. Look where the image of the aircraft meets the rest of the image. The nose wheel is a very good example.. Zoom in until just the foward landing gear fills your screen. To me, there is an obvious rectangular area around it where the variation of colors in the background change. Looks an awful lot like the edges of a "cut and paste".
I know some people are sure these are not fakes.... Let's just say they have been, "Manipulated".

Dago · « **Reply #10 on:** September 01, 2002, 02:11:03 PM »

Sorry goalie, but they are real. Been there, seen it.

dago

Chairboy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2002, 02:21:21 PM »

I don't know how to break it to you, but what you're looking at is a run of the mill JPEG compression artifact. Almost any JPEG image has them near high contrast areas.

Anyhow, you'd think that the fact that so many have attested to having seen this approach in person would persuade you, but I guess you have your own criteria.....

eskimo2 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2002, 02:45:11 PM »

2 Threads on the samew thing... ?

As a beach-goer, I think I would fear take-offs much more than landings.

When I was a kid (a long time ago when airport security was much more lax) there were “these guys” who used to climb the fence at Anchorage International Airport and go goof around on the airport grounds. They would usually go at night and dress in all white, head to toe, to blend in with the snow. One of the things that they used to do was to lay on the edge of the runway, where the plowed snow met the pavement, as heavies would land (at night). The instant the jet would go by, they would sprint out onto the runway to “experience” the jet-wash. They said the 747s and DC-10s made a really warm wind and all kinds of 3D sounds. One night they decided to run out behind a 747 as it was taking off. They described running into a wall of wind that was so strong that it knocked them off their feet and blew them head over heals down the runway. Since it was dark and they were so disoriented, they had no idea how far they blew down the runway. They said that it was one hell of a ride, but none of them ever ran out behind a heavy taking off again!

eskimo

Widewing · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2002, 06:10:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
I don't know how to break it to you, but what you're looking at is a run of the mill JPEG compression artifact. Almost any JPEG image has them near high contrast areas.

Anyhow, you'd think that the fact that so many have attested to having seen this approach in person would persuade you, but I guess you have your own criteria.....

What does goaly think all those people are snapping photos of, the hotel??

My regards,

Widewing

goaly · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2002, 10:19:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing

What does goaly think all those people are snapping photos of, the hotel??

My regards,

Widewing

No, If I had to guess, judging by the angle that thier heads are in, I would believe that they are snapping photos of something that was slightly lower and to the left of the center of the 747 that is displayed in this photo.

I am always open to new ideas, and I am certain that the sight of these aircraft comming in so low is impressive. However, I am not convinced that the photos have not been manipulated. Keeping one of the above posters comments about high contrast areas in mind, I looked again. This time I concentrated on low contrast areas. In the same photo just below the nose gear I followed a horizontal change in colors. To the left of the nosewheel a cloud top ends sharply on this line. To the right of the nosewheel a small cloud bottom begins sharply on this line.

As for my criteria..... Someone asked in the original post if these photos were real. I'm just giving my opinion. Sorry if you are not comfortable with that.