In game chivalry - how's it work?

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by X2Lee

im with Deadman, AW was ruthless. And besides that even in AW everyone knew who the bingo calling sissies were.
 

In AW sometimes guys would call 'bingo' on channel 1 and if the pursuer broke off, the 'bingo' guy would reverse and attack.

Ahh... the hate was strong.

[Kweassa]

Offer chivalry when you can afford it.
 
 Sometimes earning a good friend can be just as rewarding as shooting the other down.

 Or sometimes, it can be offered to display your absolute superiority in combat skills .. "go home, whelp, you do not deserve my whuppin' "

[midnight Target]

Bingo callers were sissies... no argument there. But I recall my first foray into FR land and killing a landing plane. I was villified by all, even my countrymen.

I even had guys apologize to me for killing me while I was AFK. Which AW were you guys in again?

[palef]

1. First thing I do when I connect to the MA is squelch channel 1. Unless I spot a friend and then I say "hi" before I squelch. This means I won't hear you whini.... oops, your pleas for mercy.

2. I can count on the fingers of one hand, in the 6 years of Online Flight Sims that I have participated in, the number of times I have been offered "quarter".

3. I don't pay $US15/month for other people to impose an arbitrary values system on me, that they themselves may choose to ignore from time to time.

4. It's a game.

5. You are allowed to be someone you aren't in real life when "playing" a game. You can choose the White or the Black knight  depending on how YOU feel like behaving.

palef

[akak]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Howdy all,

Tonight, I was deadsticking it to a V-base with my B-17s.  I saw that a con was attacking the base, so I asked on open channel if he would give me quarter so I could land, since I had no fuel.  

No response, and sure enough, as soon as I landed, he lit into my drones with his A-20.  It was some player named Ace5.

Does anyone else ever receive quarter in these situations?  Alternately, how do you handle it when someone asks you for mercy because they are out of fuel?

I just want to check perceptions to see what's normal for AH.  I know it's just a game, but it'd be good to know the rules of etiquette.

I've always thought that Bingo was a game that old ladies and dweebs played.  If someone yells out bingo from either lack of fuel or ammo, I'm still going to engage, it just makes my work a little easier.


ack-ack

[akak]

Originally posted by H. Godwineson
Very few ever, actually, strafed an opponent who was in his chute.  





Regards, Shuckins

That's not quite true.  In all theaters of the war, it was common that downed pilots were shot in their chutes or strafed on the ground.  There are numerous reports during the Battle of Britain where both British and German forces would shoot pilots in their chutes or in the 'life boats' that were stationed all along the channel.  Some British units even shot down German sea rescue planes trying to pick up their downed pilots out of the channel.  The Japanese routinely shot US pilots that were in chutes or strafed them in their life rafts, the Americans did the same thing.  If you recall the controversy over former Bush Sr. and his role in strafing the survivors of a sunken Japanese vessel.  The thought being that if you killed that guy now, there's not much of a chance of him coming back some other day and killing you.  

Chivalry ended in the skies over the river Marne when French Sgt.-Pilot Frantz went up in a Voisin biplane with his mechanic armed with a light machine gun and shot down an unarmed German recce plane as it tried in vain to escape.  First recorded shoot down of WW1.


Ack-Ack

[Aub]

Originally posted by Grimm
Ha!   There is no Chivalry

I remember this vividly, and recall it when ever I need to give AUB a hard time.

Back in the days when the GroveRats and the Cactus Air Force were on opposite sides,  we often worked together to create some good fights.   This was of course  AW in those days.  

One Night, I had finished a night of flying, killing and dying.   I landed my plane on a friendly airstrip.  I said good night to my squadmates and I started saying Goodbye to my old buddy AUB.  

Sure enough, AUB the Bastid swoops down thru the AAA to Vulch me on the runway as Im saying goodnight and wishing him well.   I mean, its that Low?   What a Jerk....     LOL!!  

I love to bring it up now and again and just tease the heckout him.   Inocent me, Vulch by my friend as I said goodnight.    You know.. that Gollum character from LOTRs said it pretty good...
"Aub... we hates it forever"   (JK)  

So, Nope No Chivalry at all!   No Quarter given.

I'm not listening! LA LA LA LA LA! I can't hear you!

Aub's perfect. Remember that.

[Shiva]

The real air-war was replete with incidents of pilots giving quarter to a defeated enemy. The better, more decent pilots, often said they secretly hoped their defeated opponents lived through the encounter. Very few ever, actually, strafed an opponent who was in his chute.

I remember reading that there was an incident during the early BoB concerning that. Supposedly there was a LW 109 pilot who would go out of his way to shoot up the chutes of bailed RAF pilots, and his fellow pilots couldn't get him to stop. Some number of sorties later, he gets shot up and has to bail -- and his entire unit breaks off combat and orbits, giving the RAF pilots time to shoot him up in his chute before resuming combat.

This was, of course, early enough in the war that you could expect to see the WWI-era 'knights of the air' attitude on both sides.

[akak]

Originally posted by Montezuma


In AW sometimes guys would call 'bingo' on channel 1 and if the pursuer broke off, the 'bingo' guy would reverse and attack.

Ahh... the hate was strong.

One of the oldest AW tricks in the book.  I've lost count on the hundreds of times I was able to get Runstangs and Dora's to stop running and come back for the kill just by calling out 'bingo' over the open channel.  Killed AGriego last night with the same trick in the MA .  Never used it to make a pursuer break off though,  I usually never had a problem reversing on them for the kill.  It was just a good way to get a runner back into the fight.


Ack-Ack

[akak]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Bingo callers were sissies... no argument there. But I recall my first foray into FR land and killing a landing plane. I was villified by all, even my countrymen.

I even had guys apologize to me for killing me while I was AFK. Which AW were you guys in again?

AW DOS, AW4W, AW2, AW3, AWMV.


ack-ack

[Grimm]

Originally posted by Aub


I'm not listening! LA LA LA LA LA! I can't hear you!

Aub's perfect. Remember that.

LOL!!!!    Ill keep that in mind.....

More Coffee Mr AUB?

LOL!

[runny]

Originally posted by Chairboy

Does anyone else ever receive quarter in these situations?  Alternately, how do you handle it when someone asks you for mercy because they are out of fuel?

I wonder if it will make it harder to set their plane on fire.

[Aub]

Originally posted by Grimm
LOL!!!!    Ill keep that in mind.....

More Coffee Mr AUB?

LOL!

I'm not Mr. Aub anymore...

Never will be again. That's you

[Rude]

The 13th TAS's Motto has always been....

No Mercy Asked.....None Given!

[Curval]

Originally posted by Mathman
When people say don't worry about killing chutes because you get to the tower faster, I say great.  Why?  Because then they can up again sooner.  This allows me to shoot them down again and kill their chute that much sooner.

Math...I was booted last night while trying to chat...

After reading this thread I realise that the only courteous thing to do once I had compressed that P47 would have been to jump out and open my chute..thereby giving you the chance to at least loosen off a few rounds.  My apologies...next time we meet (which seems to be every damn night recently )I will do so.

I will shoot you down one day...oh yes.