Author Topic: A perfect example of what an RPS becomes (Read 561 times)

poopster · « **on:** September 05, 2002, 01:15:54 PM »

Also a stunning example of what a Axis Allied split becomes..

http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&postid=109261#post109261

Me, I'd rather kill a nikki

Revvin · « **Reply #1 on:** September 05, 2002, 02:07:49 PM »

Whether it's RPS or perk system there will always be those unhappy with something being limited but at least an RPS IMHO is a more realistic setup and it seems that the new mission arena will be setup Axis vs Allies with a limited planeset from what I've read in the news forum and the Wargamer interview. As for that particular thread --ik-- has always been the same, he quit a few years ago and way back then I remember many an argument over his seeming obsession with the Luftwaffe constantly getting the upper hand, in the last day the top two topics were started by him and each complaining about an Allied ride. His argument therefore is not symtomatic of a problem in the RPS more to do with this crusade of his to have the best planes all of the time and to castrate the otto system so he can blow bombers out of the sky.

popeye · « **Reply #2 on:** September 05, 2002, 02:33:49 PM »

RPS won't work here, either. There aren't enough players with the skills to adapt to a changing plane set.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #3 on:** September 05, 2002, 02:40:41 PM »

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Originally posted by popeye
RPS won't work here, either. There aren't enough players with the skills to adapt to a changing plane set.

Obviously, there aren't enough in WB either.... or anywhere I've seen it attempted.

AKDejaVu

Revvin · « **Reply #4 on:** September 05, 2002, 02:47:18 PM »

RPS was'nt the reason most left WB, a lot of it was to do with HTC coming out with a much better sim and the fact that development slowed to a crawl in Warbirds and is still at that pace now, couple that with WBIII coming along and not supporting squad's properly and missing much of the planeset from it's predecessor and you have most of the reason's why RPS was not really one of those. Fact is with reduced numbers the WW2A is by far the most popular arena there by a country mile. Seems the mission arena will have such a setup too and it can't come soon enough.

Wardog · « **Reply #5 on:** September 05, 2002, 03:35:26 PM »

A perfect example why an RPS arena should be seperate arena from the MA. There are many here that would fly a RPS arena over the MA. But still have the chance to furball over in the MA for Squad events or such.

I flew WBs for 5 years and i liked the idea of an RPS. We still need a few more early planes to complete the set before an RPS area will work.I would love to see the Lagg-3, Mig-1, D520,p38J and a slew of other early planes we have no data for

I for one would love to see an RPS arena here.

Dog out...................

Rude · « **Reply #6 on:** September 05, 2002, 04:06:13 PM »

I love the RPS!!!

I have the Skilzzz!!!

I am Sparticus!!!!!

Heyas WD...how are yas:)

Wotan · « **Reply #7 on:** September 05, 2002, 04:55:12 PM »

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RPS IMHO is a more realistic setup

No it isnt. go reread that thread. Atleast in wbs they just make it up as they go. an rps with out the correctly modelled planes that are introduced at the correct "service date" is simple manipulation of the planeset depenfing on who whines the loadest.

Imagine the toejame if they tried to pull "the 109e and spit5" here in ah should be placed against each other.

Theres nothing real about it. It really doesnt add anything because the sheep follow the path of what they percieve as the the "best plane".

an RPS is simple fantasy.

Revvin · « **Reply #8 on:** September 05, 2002, 05:07:24 PM »

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an RPS is simple fantasy

And a spit fighting a spit or a 109 fighting a 109 or a SpitMk1 fighting a 109G10 or SpitMkXIV fighting a 109-E is more realistic

There have been just as many moans about perk rides and the RPS there has pretty much stayed the same since it was introduced, it had a few tweaks but it's remained as it was for a very long time. That thread is just typical of --ik-- as other's have mentioned in that thread he's just rehashing all the old arguments he put forward over 2 years ago before he left.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #9 on:** September 05, 2002, 05:24:50 PM »

I'll take the perk system over an MA RPS any day.
at least I get more than a couple of aircraft to choose from day to day.

FWIW, certain arenas are begging for an RPS IMO.

(warning, heavy use of acronyms)

Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** September 05, 2002, 06:40:00 PM »

The WBIII Mosquito Mk VI and Spitfire Mk XIV FMs are a pathetic joke. They are both so gutless its not even funny.

I would like to see an AH RPS arena at some point, but I definately would not like to see it replace the MA. Rather I'd like it as an alternative.

SOB · « **Reply #11 on:** September 05, 2002, 07:01:01 PM »

I don't need to look at the thread...RPS blows.

SOB

CAV · « **Reply #12 on:** September 05, 2002, 07:47:53 PM »

I wonder...

Is it the RPS they dislike.... or is it the fear that an RPS arena may become the most populated arena? Like it did in WB.

CAV

bowser · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2002, 08:31:57 PM »

He's right. I remember seeing all 20 people in there one night.

bowser

Wotan · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2002, 08:43:31 PM »

revvin i dont pretend it is. f4fs vrs 109es isnt either. Or running an rps based on mis modelled performance issues and not on service dates is equally unreal.

The ct in ah does what the wbs rps does. If it was so desirable folks would be in there. The mission theatre wont be an rps, it cant be we dont have the planes to do that for any set up.

Perk planes can be flown by anyone who has the perks and folks wont get just 3 (or what ever it is) days a tour to fly a p51d. People whine about perk planes because the cant distinguish betweens its perk value and its performance. They assume well this plane cost 70 perks it must be the greatest.

Thats different then being forced to fly a 109e vrs a spit 5. If you tried that in ah there would be more then just 1 guy whining.

An rps would be great if we had the planeset to do it. Like wbs we dont. So lets not pretend any of its "more real" then the other.