This sure does feel like a HUGE rain cloud

[Toad]

Originally posted by loser
You can get another car, you can get another job, you can get another friend, you can get another girl, you can get another house, you can get another computer after it is obsolete....

You only get one Udie.

This is one Loser you want to listen too!  

Udie, every day you get out of bed is a good day, trust me on this one.

Each and every one of us goes through that sine wave that Eagler posted above. EVERYONE of us.

Things will turn... they always do. Believe.

It WILL get better.

... and sooner or later you're going to look back on this and laugh about how BAD it was but how you made it on out of it. Like the time in college that my roommates and I were so broke we ate peanut butter and jelly taco shells for two weeks. All we had in the cabinet and for some reason we had quite a bit of it. Sucked then, funny now.

Take care, bud. I'm looking forward to going fishin with you next Con. Just went to the new Cabela's that opened today in KC and bought myself an entry level fly rod. Been borrowing equipement long enough!

Smile.

[rocky]

Udie. i spilled coffee on myself tree times this morning before i was finally successful...buck up little cheerio!

[Thrawn]

Udie, you have a chemical imbalance.  Your best chance at fixing this is finding the right meds to correct this imbalance.

You need to get in contact with and stay in contact with a professional.  Please don't try to go this alone.  At then end of the day, all we on the BBS can do is give you moral support, we don't know toejam about psychiatry.   And we might help you get through the day in the short term.

But if you want to beat this you need a pro.

Here's a link to a chat room for people that have been recently diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

http://bipolar.about.com/mpchat.htm


Here's a link to a history of one persons med trail and error period. Remeber, "Not everyone goes through a long, involved process! "

http://bipolar.about.com/library/weekly/bl-titration.htm

New treatment options.

http://www.nami.org/helpline/newtreatment.html

I did a quick google search on the topic and let me tell you there is TONS of info out there an this disorder.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Udie, you have a chemical imbalance.  Your best chance at fixing this is finding the right meds to correct this imbalance.

You need to get in contact with and stay in contact with a professional.  Please don't try to go this alone.  At then end of the day, all we on the BBS can do is give you moral support, we don't know toejam about psychiatry.   And we might help you get through the day in the short term.

But if you want to beat this you need a pro.

Here's a link to a chat room for people that have been recently diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

http://bipolar.about.com/mpchat.htm


Here's a link to a history of one persons med trail and error period. Remeber, "Not everyone goes through a long, involved process! "

http://bipolar.about.com/library/weekly/bl-titration.htm

New treatment options.

http://www.nami.org/helpline/newtreatment.html

I did a quick google search on the topic and let me tell you there is TONS of info out there an this disorder.  

 right now I do, because the shrink overdosed me with socalled anti-depressant drugs. In the end I may,  I dunno I'm not a doctor.  Right now I'm MAJORLY imballanced in the wrong direction.  Hopefuly the emergency room doctor was correct when he said it would take about a week for the Depakote to get out of my system.  

 I went in depressed and came out with a constant anxiety attack-psychotic feeling.  Upon MUCH thought over the past 2 weeks there are plenty of reasons of why I was depressed.  Such as not living my life the way I think I should for one. Which leads me to all the financial toejame I'm in now.  And other stuff that I won't mention here.  Top it all off my roommate - soon to be ex-best friend (if the current attitude is kept up) think's he's a doctor too and that I need meds.   I know me better than anybody and I know that the way I felt when I went in to the hospital compaired to how I've felt since I've been out is NOT normal.  Now I have to take fediddle'n xanax to be able to have rational thought.  Before I NEVER had a problem with rational thought unless I was extremely pissed off (this is the feeling I've had since I got out).

 By next wednesday if I still feel like this,  I go speak to a lawyer, two other psychiatrist and start the process of seeing how much they F'ed my head up in that place.  Several people I have talked to that went to the same hospital talk about the same type of reaction.  Honestly I'm real pissed at myself that I let some head shrink diagnose me as bi-polar in 20 minutes.  Yup that's right she made her diagnosis in 20 min then started pumping 1500 mil's of that poison in me everyday.  If a heart doctor told me he wanted to crack my chest open I would go get 3 or 4 other opinions, why I didn't here I don't know.  

 As for now each day that passes gets a bit better.  I can feel the drug leaving my system, but it is still in there.  

 I did get one bit of good news this morning.  My car isn't dead  It looks like everything BUT the engine blew out so it will only cost me a few hundred dollars to fix. Now to deal with the short term money problems.  Hopefuly in a month (provided I don't  get the axe) I should be back on track.  Hopefuly I'm back on the upswing on that big wave, because this is as low as I've EVER been and it has been the worst week of my life, aside from losing my grand mother.  Thank God for this BBS too because you guys have been a HUGE help in getting those "evil" offing myself thoughts out of my head.

 Thanks for all the emails guys!!!!

[AKIron]

Was an interesting spot on 48 hours (I think) last night. Covered the increasing controversy among doctors as to whether the use of psychostimulants in treating ADHD is succesful or appropriate.

I'm certainly no doctor but have felt that drugs have been way over prescribed in treating mood and behavioral disorders in the US. They may quiet the symptoms but don't solve the underlying problems. Unless of course as a species we've evolved into an animal incapable of naturally coping with our environment.

[milnko]

Kurt Russell was interviewed by Mark and Brian on KLOS in Los Angeles.

He was ask how his kids felt about having celebrity parents (Kurt and Goldie Hawn); his answer has always stuck with me, as it's so true;

"My Mother always said that if everyone were to put all thier troubles into paper bags and then everyone were to toss them into the air at the same time, you'd see alot of scambling as everyone tried to reclaim thier own bag"[/i]

Hang in there Udie. I'm sure you'll make all the right choices to get past your current hurdles.

[Udie]

Originally posted by AKIron
Was an interesting spot on 48 hours (I think) last night. Covered the increasing controversy among doctors as to whether the use of psychostimulants in treating ADHD is succesful or appropriate.

I'm certainly no doctor but have felt that drugs have been way over prescribed in treating mood and behavioral disorders in the US. They may quiet the symptoms but don't solve the underlying problems. Unless of course as a species we've evolved into an animal incapable of naturally coping with our environment.

 This is part of the reason I'm pissed at myself for letting them diagnose/treat my "problem".  I've seen first hand people being treated for bi-polar.  None of the people I know ever got "fixed".  Their lives are still misserable,  in fact most of them are worse off now than they were before they saught treatment.

 Day by day I'm feeling better though so that's good.  When and if I recover from the Depakote I will decide wether I  need meds or therapy.  Right now I'm leaning towards therapy.  The week in the hospital we had daily therapy, single and group.  I learned more about myself from those and gained more help from them than the meds have harmed me, so that's a good thing.

 I hope they didn't create an imballance in me, because I think that the reason I was depressed was my actions in life.  Years of wasted potential, mostly due to wanting to go smoke a joint asap.  Which cost me both professionaly AND socialy.  Been almost 3 weeks since I smoked and right now I don't know if I'll go back to it.  At least not like I had been.

 Just wish you guys could have been inside of my brain Monday night.  There is no way to describe the Hell that I went through.  Hopefuly none of you will EVER have to suffer through it.

[SirLoin]

I went through a severe depression about 10 years ago when I was laid off my aircraft mechanic's job at Boeing after 5 years,with no real hope of recall.This and being single(too down to impress any chicks) put me in a very dark and prolonged state.I also was getting these headaches that would only go away if I could get to sleep.

I went to my doctor.He prescribed Prozak.I took the pills for three days(not long enough for them to have an effect) and then quit,deciding to tackle the major issues that was draggin me down....I also went to get my eyes checked.

Well,turns out me needed glasses..My headaches went away.

I got lucky finding a decent,steadyjob,a beautiful wife(child due in 3 months)and haven't had a bout of SEVERE depression in 8 years.

Thinkin back,I lucky to make it through those years ..but a good part of that was making the right choices too...And the only reason I got through it was by seeking help and listening to myself...

[Kratzer]

Dude, if you are having episodes like this, knock the pot of permanantly, and now.  Regardless of what people think of it, it is a mild hallucinogen, and isn't going to do you anything but harm  in your shape.  Of all the people I've known with depression, etc., adding pot or too much booze into the equation did nothing but trigger more episodes.  It isn't diddlying worth it.

Your mind is just like the rest of your body - you can't mistreat it and then act all confused when it revolts against you.  Self medication is generally a bad idea... feeling better on the short term can very well make things worse in the long run.  You get into that cycle, and you can spiral downward with each 'self-help' causing another episode, and each episode causing more 'self-help'.  I saw a buddy in a VERY similar situation to yours (meds screwed him up), and he started drinking heavily to feel better - it ended up a couple years later with his wife and newborn baby moving out.  It is hard getting past that hurdle (read: TIME), but if you do, things will turn around.

Not trying to put too much emphasis on pot as the source of all your worries, but trust me, it probably ain't helpin'.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Kratzer
Dude, if you are having episodes like this, knock the pot of permanantly, and now.  Regardless of what people think of it, it is a mild hallucinogen, and isn't going to do you anything but harm  in your shape.  Of all the people I've known with depression, etc., adding pot or too much booze into the equation did nothing but trigger more episodes.  It isn't diddlying worth it.

Your mind is just like the rest of your body - you can't mistreat it and then act all confused when it revolts against you.  Self medication is generally a bad idea... feeling better on the short term can very well make things worse in the long run.  You get into that cycle, and you can spiral downward with each 'self-help' causing another episode, and each episode causing more 'self-help'.  I saw a buddy in a VERY similar situation to yours (meds screwed him up), and he started drinking heavily to feel better - it ended up a couple years later with his wife and newborn baby moving out.  It is hard getting past that hurdle (read: TIME), but if you do, things will turn around.

Not trying to put too much emphasis on pot as the source of all your worries, but trust me, it probably ain't helpin'.

 I understand everything you've said and believe me it will be a while before I smoke it just because of the financial problems.  I doubt I will ever use it like I did in the past though.  Who knows though.  Right now I've got bigger probs to face

[Kratzer]

Just put one foot in front of the other - you will get through.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Kratzer
Just put one foot in front of the other - you will get through.

 hehe yeah you'd think.  Get the good news about the car, but now I need a new place to live .  My roommate (best friend of 15 yrs) has picked this week (arguably the worst in my life) to become a dick to me.  Hasn't said but maybe 4 words to me all week and all of them negative.  SIGH   one thing after another.

 Guess I'm lookin at moving back in w/ mom for a month or 2 at the ripe old age of 33 years old.  But what ever,  all I know is there ain't NO room in life for dickhead people.

oh well I'll be better for it in the end I'll have independence and he will have lost his best friend and the best fishing partner he'll ever find.....