Best "pilots" in the game?

[palef]

Never (luckily) bumped into Drex.

In a Ki61 Mitsu/Hermit rules.

Plus he is a nice chap, and contributes to the AH community extensively.

palef.

[wulfie]

moot, urchin, wotan, all others applicable:

It's a big inside joke between lazs2 and I.

I am willing to bet that lazs2 has never, and never will, fly a Ta 152 online.

He doesn't like perk aircraft. He doesn't like LW aircraft. He basically doesn't like anything but F4Us.

So, having never flown a Ta 152 online, I could gurantee he's been killed less in them than all of you.

Mike/wulfie

[poopster]

After flying in the range of 40 hours a month since 98 I should be one BAD MOTHER.

I'm not, in fact I'm not even close. Though it's not for lack of trying.

Some people have a natural ability on doing "certain" things. For one it may be music, for another it tweeking an engine for the last ounce of power.

For some it's thinking in three dimensions, angles, thinking out of the box. It's a natural, although in most cases studied. Studied with results

I'm studied.....I suck

I've come to terms with my...suckage..

What I find refreshing, is that the ones that are "good" at this adventure we all aspire to do, are for the most part humble in there expertise.

You know who they are

Gentlemen.

I say "most", because those that aren't I could care less about.

Mines bigger than yours and see what I can do ??

Like I care. In a word...blow me.

I was a body builder for 15 years. ( quite old and saggy now ) Know what it's like to be "different". Did some amateur competing. Was fun actually walking into a bar for the doubletakes..

Spent my time teaching at a gym for those that "wanted" to do what I did. Beating up old highschool bullies or baiting poor little bar tuffies wasn't required for some strange reason.

Have a very close friend that's a 4th degree black belt. You'd never know it meeting him, he has nothing to prove, he knows

Quite a few good sticks here...and at WB. The ones with class I salute'  They "know" and thats all that's required.

The ones without class, I laugh at.

There tits are green.

The thing is, everyone else sees nothing but green tits  

And they don't know it

How dumb it that ?

The passion for the game is why we're here. Those that realize that, are the class of the group, regardless of there individual abilities.

And that's shown on a daily basis, one way, or the other..


...old poop struggles and puts the soapbox back in the closet.. had 21 inch hooks, now has trouble with walking upright..

...not to mention the "accidents"...

Honey ???



P.S. Well said Eskimo

[wulfie]

Widewing,

The pre 1941 trained IJA and IJN pilots were better trained and more selectively screened than any wartime USAAF/USN/USMC pilots/Aviators. NOTE: This is *not* saying that no wartime USAAF/USN/USMC pilot/Aviator was as good or better than any pre 1941 trained IJA/IJN pilot. I'm talking about training.

The main problem was aircraft design - IJA/IJN aircraft didn't protect their pilots at all really. The only reason alot of US pilots ever survived to become experienced and really good was due to the sturdy construction and superior pilot protection of their aircraft.

A 'smart' pilot is a USN F6F Aviator who sticks to wingman and flight attacks and doesn't make stupid mistakes or exercise poor judgement in the heat of battle. He's fairly effective and contributes to the success of his team.

A 'totally f*cking amazing' pilot is Sakai, who 1 on 16, on the deck, in a slower aircraft, with basically no armor, evades 16 attacking F6Fs for an insane ammount of time while getting to a friendly AAA umbrella, and manages to get some decent % shots off at some of the F6F...while never being hit by enemy fire. There is a world of difference in terms of skill between this and 'knowing to surprise A6Ms in your P-40 when possible and to dive thru them after your gun pass and don't turn'.

Take a 'smart' pilot and put him up against Sakai 1 on 1 and the smart money is on Sakai every time.

But in actual warfare - it's better to have 240 'smart' pilots with good training in pair/flight/squadron tactics with survivable/rugged aircraft than it is to have 4 or 5 'totally f*cking amazing' pilots and 210 'good/experienced' pilots without the same emphasis on flight and squadron tactics in aircraft that have no pilot protection.

In war it's better to have 160 competent F6Fs that use wingman tactics than it is to have 80 experienced and skilled A6Ms, even if the A6Ms are superior 1 on 1 or even 2 on 2.

IJA/IJN pilots couldn't get 'unlucky' a single time. USN/USMC/USAAF pilots lived to learn from numerous mistakes and/or unlucky situations because their aircraft gave them the chance.

It's hard for some to accept (widewing - I'm not talking about you here), but many times throughout history the victors in a conflict have not had the most skilled warriors. Skilled warriors can be defeated by less skilled warriors with the advantage of superior #s and superior logistics. That is WW2 in a nutshell. People need to get over it, because they are focusing on the wrong thing in terms of 'National Pride'. Skill isn't anything to 'worship' - bravery is another thing entirely. There were Ju 88 pilots who in 1941 were truly awesome attack pilots. Very experienced and very effective. A green B-17F pilot over France in late 1942 is their peer in my book every time. Skill and experience come over time. Bravery is the trait to admire. To go into France, against the best fighter pilots in the world at that time (JG 26, JG 2), without fighter cover for the middle 50% of your flying time - how could you not admire that type of nerve and devotion to duty?

By 1944, your average USAAF pilot or USN/USMC Aviator was of superior skill and capability when compared to his average counterpart. It wasn't this skill discrepancy in 1944 that decided the conflicts on both seas however. Over NWE the LW was doomed when even though it was trading one aircrew per ten aircrew vs. the USAAF and RAF in 1943, it was still falling behind in 'the numbers game'.

The RAF pilots were more experienced as a group than the USAAF pilots over NWE. Technically, they had superior experience and thus probably superior skill. But it wasn't RAF skill that killed the entire LW as an airforce (note: they killed alot of aircraft for sure, an admirable accomplishment). It was the hordes of rugged P-47s, flown by competent if not amazing (not amazing until they gained the experience to become amazing mind you) 'new' USAAF pilots, that drew the LW into a battle of attrition it could never have won. It lost even more quickly due to stupid demands imposed on it's leadership by Nazi officials with no current knolwedge of air combat (Goering forcing Galland to oppose every single raid against Germany for example).

I can't recall the exact quote, but it goes something like 'real generals study logistics'. During the WW2 era this was a very true statement.

Mike/wulfie

[senna]

Hey wulf, do you ever post anything goofy or do you always post highly detailed, well researched, and clearly relevant topics to ah.

[senna]

I recall you mentioning you were in the Navy. Im assuming you must be on a ship cas when you Navy guys are on shore, youre all a buncha drunks.

[wulfie]

No fleet duty for me. That's real work.

All fleet deployed BMs, HTs, etc.

Mike/wulfie

[Widewing]

Originally posted by poopster
After flying in the range of 40 hours a month since 98 I should be one BAD MOTHER.

I'm not, in fact I'm not even close. Though it's not for lack of trying.

Some people have a natural ability on doing "certain" things. For one it may be music, for another it tweeking an engine for the last ounce of power.

For some it's thinking in three dimensions, angles, thinking out of the box. It's a natural, although in most cases studied. Studied with results

I'm studied.....I suck

I've come to terms with my...suckage..

 

You don't suck poop. In fact, I find you a much better than average pilot. I think you take excessive risk, and that hurts your results. But, you certainly don't suck.

There's one guy I fly with now and again, and he couldn't have worse SA if he were blind. He doesn't care, 'cause he's having fun. Nonetheless, HE truly sucks! In fact, if the noise generated by his suckiness were heard in Kansas, half the population would be in storm cellars.

By the way, you knew it had to happen sooner or later: I had enough time to fly a few sorties tonight, and while fighting with a pair of La-7s, our CV got whacked by the SBs. Uh oh, not much gas left. So I figured that if I'm gonna land my two kills, I had better untangle myself and skedaddle. Those La-7s went elsewhere after they were both pinged, and I used the growing darkness to disengage. I flew about a full sector to our nearest field, a port. As I arrived it started flashing... Ahhrrgg! Well, it was a panzer and I strafed him and started it smoking. I figured that would keep him away from the VH where I intended to land. I had also picked up a rider in the form of ET2 who sent a join message. With flaps and gear down, I lined up to land. Just then, a red icon appears Co-alt! A damned TBM! Well, up come the gear and flaps. I engaged, chased him down and shot off the glass tail. Once again, I start the landing drill, when the engine dies.... No gas. It doesn't look like I'll make the VH, but I should be able to land and take the "ditch". Man, it's dark, but the Wildcat settles on her gear and I roll out. Then suddenly, and object appears, too close to avoid. Wham! "You have died" came the message. Gosh %$#&*@!!!!

That loss halved my fighter K/D! Easy come, easy go.... Oh well, I needed to work on my bomber score anyway. Reality has a way of getting one's attention, you know?

My regards,

Widewing

[moot]

Yeah Wulfie, it had an odd ring to it

[lazs2]

"Quite a few good sticks here...and at WB. The ones with class I salute' They "know" and thats all that's required.

The ones without class, I laugh at.

There tits are green.

The thing is, everyone else sees nothing but green tits  "

LOL poopie!  that about says it.   the guys who can't even reply (or start) a thread that is about the clolor of the landing gear without describing their latest 12 kill sortie in painful (and somewhat one sided) detail....  I think they know they look like a pompous bellybutton but they simply can't help themselves....  "look at me..Look at me!  nooo noo I'm over here, don't look at that guy"

Soo... creamo.. who do you think is "the best"?   Or, do you simply feel that since flight sims are so simple.... everyone is equal?   Perhaps you feel that (lol) animal or central are good?  
lazs

[batdog]

Hi Lazs.

Mitsu,Drex and Fester are all unreal. They're on a level beyond me I think.

The game is loaded w/good sticks.

I am not one of them.

xBAT


P.S. Bye Lazs.

[Ripsnort]

Pretty much sums up military pilots:

[Udie]

I would have to say that with out a doubt I am the best pilot in this game.

 Just ask xbat about my deflection shooting skillzzzzzz.

[Masherbrum]

I've witnessed my squadmates Helm and Goth do some outrageous manuevers.  

This isn't to blow sunshine up their bellybutton either.  They're damn good sticks.  Both of them have taught me so much.  I'm still blown away.

Whels, you are good stick as well.



Karaya2

[batdog]

Originally posted by Udie
I would have to say that with out a doubt I am the best pilot in this game.

 Just ask xbat about my deflection shooting skillzzzzzz.

yes...yes it is. unreal....

xBat