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Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2002, 11:58:49 AM »
Well, your definitely wrong.  I'll post the correct info when I get home to my references, but both the Yak-9U and the Yak-9UT both saw action in the war.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2002, 12:02:16 PM »
Great,  thank you Vermillion.

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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2002, 12:06:28 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2002, 04:03:32 PM »
from Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War Vol 1:  Single Engined Fighters, by Yefim Gordon and Dmitri Khazanov, ISBN # 1-85780-083-4

FYI this is the single best source on VVS fighters during WWII, and its written by Russian Authors from Soviet Archives.

Yak-9U

First flights in January 1944, with official test flights to follow in January-February 1944.

The 42nd Guard Fighter Air Regiment, commanded by Y Alexandrovich, was among the first units to receive the Yak-9U.....  Wide spread use of the new fighters began at the end of the Summer of 1944 .....  During the tests, which continued almost to the end of 1944, 398 flights were made by the Yak-9U's and 299 air combats took place.  According to the Regiments  documentation the combat loss ratio was 28 to 2  in the Yak's favour..... A total of 3,921 Yak-9U's  was built, about 2,500 of them before the end of the war, and the type was widely used on all fronts.

Yak-9UT  (from the same source)

Testing of the Yak-9UT began in March  1945 and was completed, very successfully, after the wars end.  But many of the 282 built took part in the air combats over Berlin during the last days of the war.


If you want the complete text, I suggest buying the book :) Its well worth it

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2002, 05:40:41 PM »
Just got that book and waiting for the multi engine one..excellent books.
Perk the osti..
Put in a normal 37mm half track

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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2002, 05:44:14 PM »
What were the most commonly used german AA vehicles?

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2002, 06:15:26 PM »
Wirblewind was very common, it had 4x20mm and used the same frame as the osty. Except instead of a 37mm turret, it had 4x20mm

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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2002, 07:39:03 PM »
DM on the GVs, at least on the Panzer, should be fixed before any 'perking' commences. Currently, you don't need rockets, nor bombs, nor specialized tank-killers to kill Panzers. Take up any plane with MG and(or) Cannons, go strafe it a few times and watch it helplessly disabled, smoking, hollow shell of junk. Heck, I've been disabled in the Panzer from an incoming Hurricane MkI,  even.

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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2002, 07:54:14 PM »
Thanks, Vermillion, for checking out your excellent source.

MRPLUTO

P.S.  Math...very useful Yak website.  Confirming what Vermillion said.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2002, 07:59:41 PM by MRPLUTO »

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2002, 08:31:22 PM »
No problem, I collect alot of good reference books and all the info I can find.

Not to mention that the VVS stuff has become of particular interest to me in the last couple of years.  So I guess you can say its a hobby within a hobby for me :)

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2002, 09:00:38 PM »
Wirblewind and ostwind were both very rare.
Vast majority of armoured AA vehicles were half tracks.

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2002, 09:38:17 PM »
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Wirblewind was very common, it had 4x20mm and used the same frame as the osty. Except instead of a 37mm turret, it had 4x20mm


Yes, very common -- they made some 150 Wirblewinds, compared to the total production of 44 Ostwinds. Compare that to how many PzKpfw IVs were made. The Ostwind should, on the basis of rarity alone, be perked as heavily as the 262.

The standard mobile AAA vehicles for the Wehrmacht were vehicles like the SdKfz 7/1 (20mm FlAKvierling) and SdKfz 7/2 (37mm FlAK), both of which had the gun shield as the sole crew armor, although some of them had armor for the engine and front bench seat.