Author Topic: Was Flight 93 a case of racial profiling? (Read 883 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2002, 01:55:06 PM »

You may be right that there was no attempt to prevent the ramming of the pentagon.

Any idea at what point in the flight that call was made? I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't have tried to stop them knowing they were about to die.

Obviously any attempt that may have been made was unsuccesful but that doesn't mean they didn't overwhelm the hijackers in the passenger area but couldn't get into the cockpit.

Unless there is evidence of what happened in the last 5-10 minutes of flight I guess we'll never know.

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #16 on:** September 14, 2002, 02:22:24 PM »

Iron, I was wondering that right after I posted. Maybe the angle of decent was too steep for the passengers to even leave their seats or, if they did, they couldn't get past the hijackers guarding the cockpit. One thing for sure is that the hijackers knew the passengers would react like it was a more typical hijacking and the plane would land soon. In fact the hijackers even told passengers exactly that. I'll bet that's the last time the American flying public falls for that one, huh?

whgates3 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 14, 2002, 03:40:15 PM »

i have yet to see anything but circumstantial evidence that confirms the 19 accused commited these crimes - - for all we know Tim McVeigh's right wing terrorist buddies did this $hi+, making sure there would be a muslim on the flight before they picked their planes, knowing the muslims would take the blame, as initially happened in OK city (the only comperable act of terrorism in the US since 1812)...

Thud · « **Reply #18 on:** September 14, 2002, 05:17:27 PM »

Oh my, it's the reincarnation of Franjo Tudjman again. Well, no wonder Groinhurts has a personal vendetta against anything that might be considered (by him) leftist or liberal, he thinks he's the mighty Croatian ruler who was a selfdeclared fascist. Glad to see we have our own BBS Ustasa.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #19 on:** September 14, 2002, 05:53:40 PM »

Tujman was a bad guy not quite on the level of Milosevic but he caused a lot of harm. But I dont see what that has to do with the discussion. Since you changed the subject and started the insults, I would like to ask a question seeing that you are Dutch.

So Thud which UN war criminal at Srebrenica were you, the General perhaps? Or were one of the APC drivers who ran over dozens of innocent Bosnians while running away?

SirLoin · « **Reply #20 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:13:16 PM »

I wonder what a profile on Grunherz would look like?

Thud · « **Reply #21 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:14:10 PM »

LOL, at Srebrenica there was no Dutch general, and it strikes me as a bit dubious that you, who supported quite some of the Croatian actions in the wars were talking about (deducted solely from your ridiculous outburst on these forums I must admit) worries about the faith of bosnian muslims, the same Croatia was at war with too, remember? No need to describe what happened to these heh? Furthermore the Dutch 'peace'keepers never ran refugees over with their armored vehicles, better check your sources and distinguish between facts and urban legends boy.

BTW if you just had posted this thread without aiming it at the people you call liberals, you would just have made a stupid impression, now everybody wonders whether your voices told you you're senator McCarthy and must rid this BBS of all these dirty lefties.......

would laugh if it wasn't so sad

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #22 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:30:20 PM »

Our fighting with the Bosnians was probably the saddest thing of the whole war in a common sense sort of way. It was part of a scheme dreamt up by Tujman and Milosevic to take over Bosnia... I thought it was sad.

So Thud what was the cause of this personal attack? Were you actually one of the Dutch UN guys over there?

A profile of me Sir Loin? What would like to know?

Thud · « **Reply #23 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:39:23 PM »

Hmmm, seems to me that the reasoning behind my 'attack' is more than sufficiently described in my last paragraph two posts up, isn't it?

Well let me say that your almost hysteric ranting against anything left or leftist provoked me into it. Not so much the attacking of the left itself, but the same idiocracy with which Mr. Reed (check the sane and rational thread) throws all muslims on a big pile you do that with anything not as right wing as Franjo (check your UN post from yesterday FO). For someone like yourself it's probably necessary to clarify further that if you would call everyone and everything 'rightist' etc. you would make the same pathetic impression.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #24 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:47:46 PM »

But I disagree that Reed lumps every Molslem into the terrorsist pile. It is a matter of interpretation and personal values. Its beyond my personal morals to see innocent moslem citizens as terrorists - ceratinly more likely to be potential islamic extremist terroists- but not proof of them being so.

Growing up my best friend was muslim. So I would never see all of the muslims piled randomly into the ranks of terrorists as you and dutch UN comrades helped pile them into serb busses at Srebrnica.

Thud · « **Reply #25 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:55:23 PM »

Well better not being able to do anything about the refugees being piled into busses by the serbs because a far superior force threatens you and your few lightly armed comrades than killing them yourself as your Croatian comrades did.

BTW I did not say that you generalized all muslims, just said that Reed did that which is hardly a matter of interpretation.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #26 on:** September 14, 2002, 06:59:02 PM »

At least we killed people humanely and on purpose and not by running them over with tanks while we ran away.

Im curious, can you tell me what people getting crushed by tank tracks sounds like? Is it a squish type noise or more like crunch type noise?

Thud · « **Reply #27 on:** September 14, 2002, 07:21:49 PM »

Yeah, never heard of a genocide that wasn't on purpose. But humanely?!? You are indeed confused.

The other things in your post don't deserve to be dignified with a response, if you can't post facts then babble on about your funny stories, good luck.

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #28 on:** September 14, 2002, 07:29:11 PM »

On a related note five terrorists in the NY area were arrested after tips from the Moslem community to law enforcement. I saw that on Fox News Network and quit looking at me like I drive a Niki just cause I watch Fox. Sheeesh, Purists.

midnight Target · « **Reply #29 on:** September 15, 2002, 11:02:45 AM »

Wow! Great observation Grun! Brilliant! Your powers of deduction and retrospection are unparalleled! Your ability to point out the one thing that will make liberals cower in their holes is immense! I bow to your wisdom on this matter! Amazing... truely amazing! I promise to vote the straight Republican ticket next election to assuage my guilt at the liberal hypocrisy you have so deftly brought to light.

not!