Was Flight 93 a case of racial profiling?

[GRUNHERZ]

Well you liberals?

Since you are all so eager to call anyone who confronts potential or actual arab terrorists a racist why wasnt the reaction of the Flight 93 passengers not a case of racial profiling?

They were clearly arab muslims who took the plane and threatend it with a "bomb".

The passengers knew of the other suicide plane attacks.

Why wasnt it a case of racial profiling for them to put the two together and assume their plane was going to do the same?

So in trying to kill or confront the alleged (they were never conviced of the crime ) arab muslim terrorists on Flight 93 only on the assumption based on the ethnicity of the arab suicide type bombers and knowlege of the other attacks, did the  Flight 93 passengers commit a hate crime of racial profiling?

How is this case different from all the other cases of racial profiling you liberals whine and lie about?


BTW I fully expect you liberals, well maybe except elfenwolf, to try to evade and deny this. Even you guys couldnt attack the Flight 93 heroes - the passengers, not the terrorists  for some of you more rabid leftists. But who kows maybe you will.  But it clearly seems to fit your criteria for a hate crime of racial profiling...

[Creamo]

Udie, don't do it, shoot Groinhertz instead, and quick.

[Animal]

Grunherz this is very stupid.

You are the first person I have ever heard or read to even have the imagination to come up with such claim.
And then you throw the ball at the liberals as if they are the ones to come up with such nonsense?


-edit for making an effort to be more sensible-

[GRUNHERZ]

I obviously dont think it was racial profiling...

But honestly I pose the question where our liberal friends draw the line between common sense obvious assumpitions ( Flight 93) and their claims of supposedly racist assumptions called "racial profiling".

Now I admit its a very risky on my part using Flight 93 but its also a very poignant case to examine for proponets of the racial profiling propaganda method.

So liberals why is this different. Plus you cant use 20/20 hindsight as a crutch to your upcoming pathetic excuses.

[Animal]

Plus you cant use 20/20 hindsight as a crutch to your upcoming pathetic excuses.

That statement shows that you have little intention of taking into consideration anything they have to say, so why do you bother to ask in the first place?

[GRUNHERZ]

Well its a bit of bait...  

But I do stand with the no 20/20 hindsight part.

[Lance]

Heh, we really need a dipshit of the week award.

Of course, there wouldn't be much suspense from week to week with Grunherz around.

[Dowding]

We also need a Lifelong Award for Vitriolic Stupidity.

BTW.... Grunherz = Cabby?

[GRUNHERZ]

So you leftist types dont see Flight 93 as a possible type of racial profiling incident?

[OZkansas]

Well, of course, flight 93 was pure racial!  There were white people on that plane.  That in itself makes it racial.  Never mind the box cutter etc.

Besides, you have to remember that only liberals are able to read minds and make any kind of determination as to whether any crime is racial or a "hate crime".

We must trust liberals as they only have good intentions towards everyone.  Well, except conservatives as we all know conservatives are evil.  But, of course, that isn't profiling because liberals are incapable of profiling,right?  Hmmmmm, or could liberals be profiling conservatives?  Geez, I guess I must be wrong as liberals only have good intentions.  Gosh, I wonder what the word "profiling" means to a liberal?  We know for sure that it evokes feelings by liberals.  I wonder what kind of feelings it evokes from them?

So many unanswered questions.

[Elfenwolf]

Once the knife is pulled or the gun raised it quits being a racial issue and instead becomes a survival issue. It could have been any special interest or minority group, but by the time the Flight 93 passengers rushed the hijackers they were well aware the intent of the hijackers was to use the plane as a bomb against ground targets. They had no logical choice but to try and save their lives by rushing the cockpit.

Conversely I'm surprised nothing is ever said about the inaction taken by the passengers in the Pentagon jet. They knew about WTC and according to phone conversations knew they were going to die yet they did nothing to try to save themselves. Does this mean they didn't act because of racial profiling?

Racial profiling is when an officer pulls a black person over for driving around in a white neighborhood, for instance. Racial (or gender) profiling occurs at the check-in gate when I'm asked to remove my shoes yet a Nun isn't. Racial profiling is when a pilot refuses to take off until four men of Middle Eastern heritage are removed from his plane.

In the case of the cop pulling over the black kid driving in a white neighborhood is it a case of  racial profiling if there'd been a rash of area burgulries committed by a black suspect? In California the CHP had to keep a log noting the race of all their stops. Maybe racial profiling occurs when a cop let a black driver keep speeding yet pulls me over because he's already had too many stops of African Americans.

Should I be offended that I have to remove my shoes yet the Nun doesn't? I'm profiled to be a more likely hijacking suspect than the Nun, so the screener is using common sense. This kind of profiling is acceptable in my eyes, but the danger of racial profiling is what happened when a jet refused to allow Middle Eastern passengers on board- it can quickly become racial predijuce. That's my concern with racial profiling.

[OZkansas]

"Once the knife is pulled or the gun raised it quits being a racial issue and instead becomes a survival issue."


I wonder what could have been done before it became a survival issue?  Now that we know more after 9-11 are we as a society willing to offend some to avoid any future survival issues?  I bet not.  It's more important to avoid offending then providing security.  Because of our political correctness attitude each of us puts our lives on the line anytime we enter public transportation.

The race card is a tool only for the terroists.  Will we allow this tool to cost additional lives?  I hope not, but the fear of being labeled a racist may tempor someone's judgement at a security point.  

When the do-gooders get through with the woman that reported the alligator-ally guys, she will never report anything in the future and others will learn not to report also!  Score one for the terroists!

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Conversely I'm surprised nothing is ever said about the inaction taken by the passengers in the Pentagon jet. They knew about WTC and according to phone conversations knew they were going to die yet they did nothing to try to save themselves. Does this mean they didn't act because of racial profiling?

Hmmm, did they recover the black box from flight 77? It seems to me they didn't but I could be wrong. What makes you so sure there wasn't an attempt to stop the hijackers on that flight Elfenwolf?

[Pongo]

Originally posted by Creamo
Udie, don't do it, shoot Groinhertz instead, and quick.

man cant believe you got away with that one..lol
GH..shake your head you clown.

[Elfenwolf]

Originally posted by AKIron



Hmmm, did they recover the black box from flight 77? It seems to me they didn't but I could be wrong. What makes you so sure there wasn't an attempt to stop the hijackers on that flight Elfenwolf?

Because one woman said via cellphone that they were huddled in the back of the plane and the hijackers had killed a stewardess. She indicated they knew about WTC, so I'm making an assumption that as the jet hit the Pentagon if the passengers were attempting to gain the cockpit they were unsuccessful.

I'm not faulting any passengers on any jet prior to 9-11-01 for remaining seated after the hijackings because up to that point nobody imagined hijackers would use planes as suicide weapons. If a hijacking were to occur today I imagine every passenger and every crew member would be willing to go down fighting. 9-11 changed all the rules.