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Shepard121

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Will Aces High have a padlock view
« on: November 11, 1999, 03:10:00 PM »
I can do the Snap and pan views, but I would much rather have a padlock view.  Are there any plans to add a padlock view?

One might argue that the padlock view might give away someone sneaking up on you, but I think the names above the plane do a good enough job with that.

A solution might be that you can only padlock a plane in the snap  view, but once it's padlocked, your head (camera) will track it.

What do you think?

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Will Aces High have a padlock view
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 1999, 03:16:00 PM »
 

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 1999, 04:28:00 PM »
Shepard;

For some reason this is an unpopular topic.  It has been delved into many previous times on this BBS.

Good Luck!  

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 1999, 04:36:00 PM »
No AI crutches for SA.

Get your OWN views.

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Will Aces High have a padlock view
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 1999, 04:40:00 PM »
I'd prefer a padlock view as well, since it's a real pain in the arse to:

-Use my joystick
-Use my keyboard
-Turn my head
-Fire

All at the same time..

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Shepard121

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Will Aces High have a padlock view
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 1999, 05:17:00 PM »
The realistic padlock in Falcon might warrant a look.  In realistic mode, once a plane leaves the pilots field of view. (ie..below the nose or under the belly) the padlock holds for a second or two, and then defaults back to the front view. (ie losing sight)

I am against having a padlock that can track a plane through your own plane.

To quote a friend of mine who is a retired fighter pilot:

You've got lots more situational awareness in a real plane, so use whatever views you can in the simulation to make up for that.

That's just my take...

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Will Aces High have a padlock view
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 1999, 05:21:00 PM »
Isn't finding the enemy part of the fun?

Having to search frantically if you've lost vis on him really gets the adrenaline going for me.

Padlock views seem to be nothing more than a crutch to make boxed simm junkies who are too lazy to use their view system able to compete online.  

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 1999, 05:33:00 PM »
I've been playing WarBirds for long time and never had any need for padlock view, so why would we possibly need one relaxed realism padlock here?
Seems like others doesn't have any problems either with that.

My words, you all who are missing padlock view, you guys will get used to these 'manual' views, I am sure of that  

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 1999, 07:01:00 PM »
Shepard;

I myself have flown all the Falcon's.  I learned when to use padlock and when not to use it.  

I wonder how many naysayers have actually used Padlock long enough to know its uses,  or how to effectly use it.

From a game standpiont HTC considers padlock to be very time comsuming to get it right,  and not a so valuable featured to be coded.

The current AH view system is very well done, take some time to get the hang of it.

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 1999, 09:02:00 PM »
I vote for a padlock view because it makes those guys using it, fixate on their targets.  I find I can't keep an overall good SA in a multi bogey environment with a padlock view in the boxed sims, so I never use it.  If some guy wants to "focus" on one plane that much, I am all for it.



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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 1999, 12:26:00 AM »
This reminds me of tonight in the arena when half the guys noticed ya couldn't see outside the plane anymore online, I heard more than a few complain...

 "How are ya supposed to see behind yourself?!?!"

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 1999, 01:07:00 AM »
I think the time is right for implementing padlock to online sims.  There's been a few offline games that show how to do it.  Falcon4 and Flanker2 for example.

The key idea here is that you need to acquire  the target "the old fashion way" first, and that the padlock will break lock if the target it out of sight for more than about 2 seconds. Padlock will never substitute the snap views.

Personally I would only use the padlock in many vs 1 fights, when there's little or no danger of an enemy bouncing my target fixated tail.  

As long as the padlock is no magical see all through all thingy and is done correctly, it doesn't give any advantages.  I could almost say quite the contrary.  You easily get target fixated using the padlock.

I'm all for it.


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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 1999, 01:28:00 AM »
Gotta agree with Gazoo. Give'm the padlock I like target fixated nme's.

 I could use all the help I can get!

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 1999, 08:49:00 AM »
Hblair. I'm not sure what you're saying as
I've yet been able to try .38.
Is the F3 external view gone?
(if so THNAK COD!)

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 1999, 09:09:00 AM »
Yeah, it's gone, Westy  

Haven't tested to see about bombers though ...

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