Dora the fastest plane(after ar234)?

[G10Whore]

I actually caught up with a runstang in it


or is the runstang not the fastest?

[Kieran]

Not even close. And even then, alt can determine what is fastest.

Low alt it is tough to beat a Tempest/Typhoon, or La7. They are monsters on the deck.

At high alt the Ta152 is the fastest.

At some alts the 109G10 is faster than the stang.

You get the general idea.  

[GRUNHERZ]

Any of the really fast planes will catch or outrun one another depending on intial speed, alt, position etc...

[bloom25]

The tempest is the fastest down low.  The typhoon is 2nd, and the la7 is a close 3rd.  My guess is the 109g10 and then p51d are next.

At 25k the picture changes.  The fastest here are the p51b, then p51d, 109g10, and ta152, and dora.  The p47s would be pretty fast at this alt as well.

If you go above 35k the ta152 is the fastest by far.

(I didn't include the ar234.)

 

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[Wilbus]

Well, you said catch a runstang, I supose you were both in a dive, not really about notmal speed there, it's more about acceleration and diving speed, where the Dora Nine is about as fast as a P51 (I caught one last night when I was in Dora).
Tempest is by far the fastest plane at the deck then tiffie and then P51, La7 and Dora are quite close.

The TA152, is not the fastest plane above 30k since it lacks the MW50 Boost that the Ta152 H-1 had but not the H-0.
this boost SHOULD be in AH and it would make the Tank faster and it would actually reach the speed of the Ta152 H-1.

 

 



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Rasmus "Wilbus" Mattsson
III/JG5 Eismeer

"Only the spirit of attack, born in a brave heart, will bring success to any fighter aircraft, no matter how highly developed it may be."

Adolf Galland

[R4M]

 

Originally posted by Wilbus:

The TA152, is not the fastest plane above 30k since it lacks the MW50 Boost that the Ta152 H-1 had but not the H-0.
this boost SHOULD be in AH and it would make the Tank faster and it would actually reach the speed of the Ta152 H-1

The Ta152H1 has MW50 but not GM1. The Low altitude speeds and performances match historical data, but over 25K the plane is definitely slower than its Real life counterpart.

Regarding the speed, the D9 is a tad faster than the P51 at all altitudes under 18K. Over that the Stang is a tad faster than the D9.

That makes the D9 the fourth faster prop plane on the deck (375mph) ,being behind of the Tempest (385-380mph) ,the La7 (380mph) and Typhoon (375-380mph). The G10 speed at SL is some 365 mph and the P51's is around 370mph.

[juzz]

Fastest planes by altitude

0-8k: Tempest Mk V
8-27k: Me 109G-10
27k+: Ta 152H-1

Top 5 by altitudes

0k
1. Tempest V: 389mph
2. La-7: 381mph
3. Fw 190D-9: 376mph
4. Typhoon Ib: 375mph
5. Me 109G-10: 370mph

5k
1. Tempest V: 412mph
2. La-7: 401mph
3. Me 109G-10: 398mph
4. Fw 190D-9: 393mph
5. Typhoon Ib: 392mph

10k
1. Me 109G-10: 414mph
2. P-51D/Fw 190D-9: 406mph
4. P-51B: 401mph
5. Tempest V: 398mph

15k
1. Me 109G-10: 430mph
2. Fw 190D-9: 422mph
3. P-51B: 421mph
4. Tempest V: 420mph
5. F4U-1C/D: 410mph

20k
1. Me 109G-10: 446mph
2. Fw 190D-9: 427mph
3. Tempest V: 424mph
4. P-51D: 422mph
5. F4U-1C/D: 420mph

25k
1. Me 109G-10: 441mph
2. P-51D: 437mph
3. P-47D/P-51B/Ta 152H-1: 428mph

30k
1. Ta 152H-1: 450mph
2. P-51B: 442mph
3. P-47D: 430mph
4. Me 109G-10: 423mph
5. P-51D: 421mph

Take into account what GRUNHERZ said, as these are only the sustained level top speeds.

[juzz]

   

Following the red "Emergency Power" curve:

1. Peak at ~6k is supercharger 1st gear critical altitude with MW 50.
2. Peak at ~17k is supercharger 2nd gear critical altitude with MW 50.
3. Peak at ~32k is supercharger 3rd gear critical altitude with MW 50.
4. Peak at ~37k is due to GM-1 injection at low rate.
5. Peak at ~40k is due to GM-1 injection at high rate.

GM-1 IS (perhaps under)modelled!  

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[Greg 'wmutt' Cook]

Just read a good article on the Mosquito and it made note that the 262, 163, and the 190d were the only LW planes that could hope to intercept it.

Muttz
332 Flying Mongrels

[juzz]

Not entirely true, but yeah - something like that.  

[GRUNHERZ]

Well the Mosquito thing is kinda true and not true, at hi alt it may have been faster than 109G6, and FW190A. But I belive G6AS had some limited succes against them. The real issue is they came in high and fast and stayed high and fast so that naturally gave them a great deal of security. They could be caught at lower alts though. Anyway the Mossie is a cool plane which was also faster than early Spits..  

[Spatula]

When we get the P51-H you will all be eating my exhaust gas - 487 MPH BABY  

[Wilbus]

Top Speed of the TA152 should be at 41k and not 33k. It's speed should be 472mph and not 460mph.

Ok, was wrong about the Boost, thought the MW50 boost was the high altitude.

Regarding to the P51 H, it REALLY shouldn't be added, it never saw action during the war and if it's added AH will turn into a "What if" game instead of a WW2 game.
P51H would be the first step to a "all time planes" sim.



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Rasmus "Wilbus" Mattsson
III/JG5 Eismeer

"Only the spirit of attack, born in a brave heart, will bring success to any fighter aircraft, no matter how highly developed it may be."

Adolf Galland

[AG Sachsenberg]

Wilbus, yeah a lot of people get that one, and you see it printed like that in books!!!  I am going to start printing out some stuff I have been reading on the D-9's specifically the ones that were how can I say it, geared for low alt action.  MW-50 is not implemented in this game I am afraid.  And Gm-1 is not added for high alt boost.  If it is then we must be dragging something for it feels mighty slow.  

One other note look at the D-9's top speed, books print top speed at 426, test by the luftwaffe put it at 440.  What gives, you could also increase manifold pressure and ada couple extra MPH for a few minutes as well.  On a side note the D-9 when first introduced to front line units mainly JG26 were eaten alive by the allied planes for they lacked the extra boost "MW-50" giving it a top speed in the area of 360-70.

What I find disconcerting is the lack of forward view in the D-9, acceleration, elevator pressure.  What I like is the ROC, MG 131, roll rate.  I find the D series very interesting to say the least, D-11 and D13 being my favorite, D-13 really is a TA    I am wondering if they will give us the 4 Mg 151/20 version of the D-9?

At any rate I feel the D-9 could be tweaked some and made a little better.    

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[Wotan]

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