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Offline jordi

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« on: September 17, 2002, 08:15:31 AM »
Clash at Midway

The Battle of Midway, fought near the Central Pacific island of Midway,
is considered the decisive battle of the war in the Pacific. Before this
battle the Japanese were on the offensive, capturing territory
throughout Asia and the Pacific. By their attack, the Japanese had
planned to capture Midway to use as an advance base, as well as to
entrap and destroy the U.S. Pacific Fleet. Because of communication
intelligence successes, the U.S. Pacific Fleet surprised the Japanese
forces, sinking the four Japanese carriers that had attacked Pearl
Harbor only six months before, while only losing one of our own
carriers. After Midway, the Americans and their Allies took the
offensive in the Pacific.

Goals: We will be recreating to the best of our ability the Battle of
Midway. What we are aiming for is the sense of “Will we find them before
they find us”
in both the CO’s and Command Staffs AND the Pilots.

Which sides Scouts will be the Hero’s and spot the enemy fleets first !

Will the Torpedo Bombers get through or suffer the same fate as Torpedo
Eight Squadron.

Both sides have to take into account that they can not directly SEE
their enemy. Both CO’s will have to make major decisions on the fly that
could easily win the day for them or lose the Scenario for them.

REGISTRATION DATE – Sept. 28th. - Oct 5th ( ONE WEEK )
It will open at 3:00 PM ET. It will CLOSE on Oct. 5th at 3:00 PM ET.

Frame Days - We will be running 1 frame per day on 4 consecutive
Saturdays.
Nov. 2nd - 3:00 PM ET
Nov. 9th - 3:00 PM ET
Nov. 16th - 3:00 PM ET
Nov. 23rd - 3:00 PM ET

First Come First Serve – ALL Pilots who register will be assigned to fly
with a Group of Pilots in the Scenario. ALL Pilots who do not get on the
Final Pilot roster WILL be assigned to a Flight as a RESERVE Pilot. As
in ALL Scenarios, RESERVES usually end up flying regardless of how many
sign up.

Depending on the how many pilots the ARENA can hold and how many
register will determine how many frames each person in any group will
fly.

We will be using the MidwayTerrain . All Land bases outside of the
Midway Atoll will be inactive.

The CO's for the Scenario are:

Grimm - CAF

and

Naso

The LEAD CM's will be DmdJordi and AUB

Please review the WEB PAGE at

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mikebowman/Clash_at_Midway_Update.htm

The rules and regulations governing the scenario are still a work in
progress. Both CO's and the CM staff will finalize ALL RULES before the
September 28th Registration Date.

The CO's and CM Staff are looking forward to your participation and
enjoyment.

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Head CM CO daddog
« Last Edit: September 17, 2002, 08:18:04 AM by jordi »
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2002, 08:37:32 AM »
Grim, if your reading this, I can accept your offer with those dates posted.  Let me know!

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2002, 09:05:13 AM »
Great- I will pass on your acceptance !
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2002, 09:07:41 AM »
as usual I'm lost in time ...
does  3:00 PM ET translate in 10:00 pm GMT or I'm lost as usual ?

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2002, 09:15:38 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
as usual I'm lost in time ...
does  3:00 PM ET translate in 10:00 pm GMT or I'm lost as usual ?


I show it as 9:00 PM Paris, France time for the Frame Dates and Times.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2002, 09:19:19 AM »
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as usual I'm lost in time ...
does  3:00 PM ET translate in 10:00 pm GMT or I'm lost as usual ?


very helpful timezone tool.http://www.timeanddate.com  

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2002, 09:20:27 AM »
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very helpful timezone tool.http://www.timeanddate.com  


Yep - I used that same link you posted in a different thread.

THANKS !
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2002, 09:34:54 AM »
Thanks guys :)

The ET part got me lost :p

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2002, 09:42:42 AM »
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Thanks guys :)

The ET part got me lost :p


ET = Eastern Time ( USA East Coast time ).

THANKS for asking - would hate to see you show up LATE !
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2002, 10:43:38 AM »
Does this mean we can expect a Kate Jordi?

Please say yes :)


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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2002, 10:45:01 AM »
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Does this mean we can expect a Kate Jordi?

Please say yes :)


Vladd


I'm betting the V1.11 is released before this large scenario ;)

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2002, 10:45:52 AM »
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Does this mean we can expect a Kate Jordi?

Please say yes :)


Vladd


See the web page.

The TBM will substitute for the KATE if one is not delivered by Frame day.

I am HOPING for one but I am not holding my breath.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2002, 10:47:45 AM »
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I'm betting the V1.11 is released before this large scenario ;)


I just hope they do not release the day before a FRAME !

Before the scenario starts would be nice or atleast 48 hrs BEFORE a frme starts !

All we need is to have 200+ people downloading an update during Frame day !
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2002, 11:13:11 AM »
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I hate to say it but 1.11 smells like a Christmas release. ;)


btw (smi-OT) I saw a discussion once in the scenario or TOD forumns asking about scenarios using human ack ack guns only. The reply indicated "human only" ack ack was worse than AI ack ack. Can anyone elaborate? It would seem that human ack ack would be the only way to go in a fleet-vs-fleet scenario.   AI ack is never blind nor caught unawares regardless of it's lethality so it's hard to sneak in from the side no one is looking at. AI ack-ack always know what range and alt to fire at while humans take more time in ranging and IMO are a somewhat more realistic, less lethal threat.  And quite often the fleet fighter CAP in scenarios just waits for the AI to finger the incoming bogies by shooting towards them and the CAP vectors accordingly.  One other major consideration is that in real life ack-ack would be unbioased and lethal to all. This would make the habit seen in the MA of blind shooting into a furball, because you can only damage or shoot down enemy planes, quite dangerous to friendlies in a scenario. More discipline would be required.

Jordi - The CM's and CO's will be testing this  theory to see if we can come up with an acceptable solution. We may need AI Ack to some degree since we do not want to force people to sit at a carrier that may NEVER come under attack in any particular frame. We will test to see if dead pilots can man some AA Guns. We need to fine the right balance betwen lots of flak that does not do a lot of damage and DEADLY FLAK that shoots everyone down before they can drop ! I have heard the 5 inch guns are the most porked in this respect.
 
 (what a thrill it would be to fly one scenario with ALL accurate aircraft and no substitutes. Early B17's, Buffalo's, Vindicators,Kates, seaplanes/flying boats... http://www.centurytel.net/midway/air_battle.html ) [/B]


If the arena could hold 600+ pilots we would at least use the correct number of planes involved. There are just some moderate substitutions we have to live with. Even the BoB Scenario had to live with  that same problem.

Thanks for your comments !
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2002, 11:25:28 AM »
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Thanks Jordi for the reply.  I hope as realistic a setting can be reached. Anything other than what is in the MA (ack ack) would be an improvement imo.

 Btw, it's not the historical numbers involved I was refering to (although that would be awseom someday) it's just the correctplane set though out. This scenario looks well though out but I always wince a little when I see another plane type subbing for another.   Still I do look forward to trying to get in on this. I'd love to fly an SBD if I could but walko-ons can't be picky :)  I can't sign up for in the last scenario work took me away both Saturdays and I felt bad getting an active slot when so many did not.  And I don't want to get an assigned slot with the possibility of the same happening again with work.

and good luck. I'll be watching for AAR's and keeping an eye on  events as they unfold with this one. Should be fun. And exciting.


I would plan on registering anyway. No guarentee you make the first List if more people register before you do !

If you do get a primary ride and you find you can not attend just let your FL know and he can move a reserve into your spot.

And if you REALLY want the SDB I bet they do not fill up as fast as some other rides !
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