Author Topic: Does this sound weird? (Read 355 times)

aknimitz · « **on:** September 18, 2002, 09:11:30 PM »

Ok, here is my system:

P4 1.8Mhz
Asus P4T-E
256MB RDRAM
GF4 Ti4400 128MB
Soundblaster Live Value
WD 40GB HD (c:)
Maxton 10GB HD (d:)
Plextor CDR/RW
CDROm

My 3dmarks seem to test fine ~ 2500'ish wwith Animals settings. However, at times in AH I get down to 15fps. Granted, it is with an entire field smoking and like 10 planes diving on me as I fly through the smoke - but I read posts about "I never get below 40fps with my new fancy vcard" - is that really possible? My AH settings are the same as Animals 3d settings, 4X FSAA, Vsync on, 1280X1024, 32bit, blah blah.

I just wonder if this sounds right or if I really should not be getting that low ever?

Thanks!
Nim

eagl · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2002, 10:12:08 PM »

My old voodoo5 got 2500 3dmarks... You should be seeing scores at least above 7000 if I recall correctly.

My GeForce2 gets 4500 running 3dmark2001SE.

aknimitz · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2002, 10:55:45 PM »

Are you sure you used all the same settings as I did? No one I saw running similar equipment a I really pushed much over 3000. Were you using 1600X1280, 4X FSAA, 32bit color and remainder default settings? and with 3DMark2001?

By the way, howzit goin' eagl?

How is the real world treating you lately? Must be beating the toejam outta Drex, havent heard a word from him in quite some time.

Nim

Reschke · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2002, 07:17:16 AM »

15fps?!

That is low for AH but I don't run at 1280x1024x32. I am running AH at 1024x768x32 and get no less than 50fps even when there are planes all around and things blowing up and smoking.

Here is my setup:
AMD Athlon T-Bird 1.4GHz, 512MB PC2100 DDR, ASUS A7V266, Abit Siluro GF4 Ti4400, Diamond MX300, 3Com 905B TX 10/100, TEAC 24x10x40 CDRW, (MIA suspected Dead) Pioneer Slot load 32X CD-ROM, ADSL connection, WinXP Pro, DX8.1
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BTW here is my 3DMark2001SE score and setup:

SETUP
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
DirectX Version 8.1

Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mobo Model A7V266
AGP Rates (Current/Available) 4x / 1x 2x 4x

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1410 MHz
FSB 133 MHz
Memory 512 MB

Graphics Chipset NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
Driver Name NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
Driver Version 6.13.10.2832
Video Memory 128 MB

Program Version 3DMark2001 SE
Resolution 1024x768 32bit
Texture Format Compressed
FSAA Disabled
Z-Buffer Depth 24bit
Frame Buffer Double
Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L

SCORE
3DMark Score 7150 3D marks

Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 112.7 FPS
Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 39.0 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 118.1 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 75.7 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 98.2 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 46.0 FPS
Game 4 Nature 32.3 FPS

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 571.8 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 1446.1 MTexels/s

High Polygon Count (1 light) 37.2 MTriangels/s
High Polygon Count (8 lights) 11.1 MTriangels/s

Environment Bump Mapping 117.2 FPS
DOT3 Bump Mapping 87.0 FPS

Vertex Shader 73.7 FPS
Pixel Shader 94.4 FPS
Advanced Pixel Shader 66.0 FPS

Point Sprite 18.5 MSprites/s
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It could be better but I am happy with it and I don't have slow choppy video in games.

Eagler · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2002, 07:27:56 AM »

I have an AMD XP2000, PNY TI 4400 - run AH at 1280x1024 32 bit AA off vsync on 512 Ram

FPS stays at 85 (monitor limit) might drop into 70's when screen is really busy - have not had a situation (smoking, vulching field) which the fps ever slowed to the point that I noticed.

ZoneAlarm and Norton AV turned off when in AH - if it matters

try it with AA off, see if you notice a graphical diff ( at that res I don't). should help ur fps

eagl · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2002, 09:10:23 PM »

3dmark scores can't be compared unless you run at default settings. Click the defaults button prior to running the benchmark, and turn FSAA/Ansio off.

aknimitz · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2002, 11:08:52 PM »

Ok, with default settings and no FSAA, my 3dMarks score is 9481.

Nim

whels · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2002, 12:49:17 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by aknimitz
Are you sure you used all the same settings as I did? No one I saw running similar equipment a I really pushed much over 3000. Were you using 1600X1280, 4X FSAA, 32bit color and remainder default settings? and with 3DMark2001?

By the way, howzit goin' eagl? How is the real world treating you lately? Must be beating the toejam outta Drex, havent heard a word from him in quite some time.

Nim

Nim,

i just ran 3dmark 2001SE defualt settings but with 1600 X
1200 32 bit color 4X FSSA .

i got a score of 7866 with following sys specs.
AMD XP2100
256 ram PC2100
Gainward GF4 TI4400 OCed to 330/660 using
40.41 nvidia drivers.

whels

whels · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2002, 12:51:17 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by aknimitz
Ok, with default settings and no FSAA, my 3dMarks score is 9481.

Nim

my defualt run is 10800 i think. compaired to the my other posting.

whels

jonnyb · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2002, 01:11:25 PM »

I've yet to break 9k for my 3dmark score. I know the bottleneck is my mb/processor....

However, my last score was around 8600. My system setup:

Athlon 1.4 Stepping AYHJA 266MHz
512M Crucial PC2100
Asus A7M266
Leadtek A250 Ultra Geforce4 Ti4600
nVidia reference drivers 30.82.

I'm going to do some tweaking (just got the new graphics card yesterday

) and see if I can boost that score. In the meantime, anyone want to throw some ideas around?

eagl · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2002, 06:31:00 PM »

Tips...

Try setting memory down to cas 2 and reduce memory timings all the way down. That may help overall system performance. If you unlock your cpu (do a google search for unlock athlon thunderbird) you can select a higher multiplier and get more cpu speed without overclocking the FSB. Or increase the FSB and run the risk of corrupting your hard drive as many drives and drive controllers puke when run over 133 mhz.

Overclock the video card too. There are dozens of nvidia tweaking utilities out there and they all can do it, or you can find the tweak that un-hides the overclocking tab in the standard nvidia display control panel. Video card memory speed is more important than video processor speed so up each one by a bit, run a test, and if it's stable leave it or try a higher setting. It's unlikely you'll toast the card if you only increase the speeds a very small bit at a time.

Make sure you have adequate case ventilation and fans. At least one intake fan and one exhaust fan in addition to the power supply fan is IMHO a minimum for a modern gaming "power rig" and proper case ventilation will also extend the life of your hard drive(s). My case is set up so 2 intake fans blow cool air across the hard drives first thing, so they should hopefully last a while.

MrLars · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2002, 07:36:52 PM »

Nimitz...I have the same MB and 512mb RDRAM...using a gForce3 ti200 and 2.2 gig Northwood I'm getting 3Dmark2001se scores of 7000+ w/o any oc'ing.

Have you updated your MB bios to v1007e?

Have you installed the intelinf for the P4T-E?

Those two updates brought my 3Dmark scores up from 4300 to 7000+

I can get 8700+ by OCing the CPU to 2.4gig and clocking up the ram to 440mhz

Those marks were w/o FSAA and Vsync off +4x AGP

e-mail me if you want to know some of the MB bios settings also.