more ramblings from hypocrite damazinhunk

[narsus]

I don't think Daschle knows a damn thing about our founding fathers, he should defininately pick up a history book and see how the politicians acted back then. The truth may surprise him.

[Ripsnort]

(Sandman enters the Federal building where he works, sees someone has left a suitcase on the steps, just as he approaches it, a thought goes thru his mind..."What if Saddam hates us enough to manufacturer a small compact nuke that could be carried into the U.S.?"...just then, a blinding explosion, 100,000 are evaporated instantly, another 25,000 died the weeks later from radiation sickness, WW3 started because of the outcrys of liberals wanting to be isolationists just as we were in 1939....>

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
(Sandman enters the Federal building where he works, sees someone has left a suitcase on the steps, just as he approaches it, a thought goes thru his mind..."What if Saddam hates us enough to manufacturer a small compact nuke that could be carried into the U.S.?"...just then, a blinding explosion, 100,000 are evaporated instantly, another 25,000 died the weeks later from radiation sickness, WW3 started because of the outcrys of liberals wanting to be isolationists just as we were in 1939....>

Followed shortly by the violent removal of one middle eastern country from the planet.

Like I said... Hussein isn't that stupid.

This "threat" is deterrable. It's not about isolationism. It's about the shift in policy from deterrance and containment to preemptive first strikes. It's a huge change.

[midnight Target]

Rip, that would be an incredibly stupid move on anyones part let alone Saddam and Iraq. What would they gain exept annihilation? Saddam has himself a sweet deal. Why would he throw it away?

I would be more concerned about Al Quiada or like minded folks getting WMD from other sources, like the old USSR. I guess we better attack them too.


And BTW, Daschle didn't say anything in the quote that I would disagree with.

[Ripsnort]

How are you gonna trace that suitcase bomb?

Wasn't putting Westerners as "human shields" in front of military installations a stupid move?  Wasn't igniting hundreds of oil wells with the intention of "making the world pay for infidels invading our land"? What makes you think this guy isn't ready to make a stupid move just so he gets paybacks? He's proven he's capable time and time again.

All I can say is this...you do nothing, YOU live with blood on your conscience...not me.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM


Followed shortly by the violent removal of one middle eastern country from the planet.

Like I said... Hussein isn't that stupid.

This "threat" is deterrable. It's not about isolationism. It's about the shift in policy from deterrance and containment to preemptive first strikes. It's a huge change.

do you think it'd be that obvious?

can anyone tell me where something as small as the west nile virus started?

how would anyone be able to tell anything unless they found an aerosol can the bio originated from stamped on the bottom "Made in Iraq"

and still the dems wouldn't believe  ...... unless they had a dem in Whitehouse


weazel
please explain d-amazinhunk's 180 on Saddam since 98
does he believe he has become less dangerous since then? our buddy since 9/11 maybe??

politics ...plain and simple - the dumb&dumbercrats know if/when we invade and find wmd under their schools, in the palaces, etc .. they are stuck with the Republicans in charge of everything until 2008.
They are playing this card to their brain burnt supporters/voting base who can't remember what was said last week, let alone 4 years ago ... or those that can't comprehend economics beyond their next gov pay check

[Fatty]

I'm a bit disappointed it took Al Gore to wake him up, actually.  They've an opportunity to pull some moderate republicans over and are missing it due to a distinct lack of spine.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Eagler


do you think it'd be that obvious?

Seemed obvious enough the last time we got hit.

can anyone tell me where something as small as the west nile virus started? [/b]

Hardly justification for going after Iraq. Plenty of other countries have WMD programs.

how would anyone be able to tell anything unless they found an aerosol can the bio originated from stamped on the bottom "Made in Iraq"

[/b]

Were they not able to determine the origin of the antrax spores scattered about last year?

and still the dems wouldn't believe  ...... unless they had a dem in Whitehouse [/b]

The Al-Queda threat was there, during the Clinton Administration. Clinton knew and so did Bush.

weazel
please explain d-amazinhunk's 180 on Saddam since 98
does he believe he has become less dangerous since then? our buddy since 9/11 maybe??

[/b]

Saddam was such a threat in 1991 that the U.N. sanctions called for his removal from Kuwait, but not a regime change.

politics ...plain and simple - the dumb&dumbercrats know if/when we invade and find wmd under their schools, in the palaces, etc .. they are stuck with the Republicans in charge of everything until 2008.

[/b]

Or worse... inspectors will find absolutely nothing and then realize that Bush is using the terror card for no other purpose than rallying votes and forwarding the republican agenda. Can't let the voting masses attention shift to domestic issues. Someone might get the impression that he's a poor leader.

They are playing this card to their brain burnt supporters/voting base who can't remember what was said last week, let alone 4 years ago ... or those that can't comprehend economics beyond their next gov pay check [/B]

[GRUNHERZ]

I have not followed Daschle much as I basically dislike the look of him and Trent Lott for that matter. However it is apparent to me that he is just a spoiler type with no real ideas or leadership solutions of his own, he is just there to complain, criticize and hopefully drum up votes for his party. Frankly I dont even know why he is in government at all.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I have not followed Daschle much as I basically dislike the look of him and Trent Lott for that matter. However it is apparent to me that he is just a spoiler type with no real ideas or leadership solutions of his own, he is just there to complain, criticize and hopefully drum up votes for his party. Frankly I dont even know why he is in government at all.

You just described 75% of the people in office.

[Eagler]

Saddam was such a threat in 1998 that the U.N. sanctions called for his removal from Kuwait, but not a regime change.

don't think he was in Kuwait in 98 was he?

listen to your man dashole, his own words in 98 about the iraq "leader" and tell me why he has done a 180. what has changed?

9/11 for one. should be more of a reason, not less

politics, the dems are trying to get the latest batch of anti-everything (war today) hippy loving dead heads to vote their way. That's why he and goron are mentioning Iraq and "worse economy" in the same sentence out of different corners of their mouths. fried short term memory folks - the old farts that want free drugs or the young ones who do/have done too many

gotta be a moron to go along/agree with goron or this idiot

[john9001]

the democrats have not passed the homeland bill because "big labor" who controls the demos dosn't like some parts of the bill , big labor thinks some govt workers will lose their "no fire, garrenteed for life time govt jobs"

the house has passed the bill , the demo controled senate has sat on the bill for a year.

FYI , Daschle is running for pres in 2004 , thats why he has to make big noises, EI: "i fought for you in the senate , and i'll fight for you in the whitehouse, etc, etc"


PS, better update that map sandman , saddam now has 1000 mile range missles.

[weazel]

weazel
please explain d-amazinhunk's 180 on Saddam since 98
does he believe he has become less dangerous since then? our buddy since 9/11 maybe??

He's found a political "football" he thinks he can run with, it's no different than any *politician* republican...or democrat would do.

That doesn't mean there isn't truth in his words.

I love this country, I believe in the principles it was founded on, but frankly.....I'm also embarrased with the fact that our government (past and present)has perverted those ideas and principles to better serve themselves and their cronies than the people who they are supposed to be serving.....

"We the People" are not being served in the fashion envisioned by the founding fathers, and the current administration in effect is pissing on the graves of all who sacrificed for this nation.

I don't know about you but that upsets me, Daschle may be an amazinhunk...but in my mind these are the words of a patriot.....not "a bunch of crap".

"Our founding fathers would be embarrassed by what they are seeing going on right now. We've got to do better than this. Our standard of deportment ought to be better. Those who died gave their lives for better than what we are giving now."

[Eagler]

the words aren't crap but they have zero meaning coming out of dasholes mouth, he insults their meaning with his hypocritical political agenda

[Ozark]

Thank God we live in a country with more than one political party. Thank God and our founding father’s for a system that let’s us debate!

God Bless America! A country free to debate without worry of gunman kicking downs our doors.