OT: Ford tech joyrides in customer's SVT...

[Hussein]

While reading that post makes you think the poster was the dumbest person in the world..

But then again, who knows if this post was posted by this guy himself or someone who wanted to harm him?

Was there any witnesses for the suspected joyride? Etc.
Internet is internet and everything you read here should be taken with two grains of salt.

[Birddogg]

Originally posted by Hussein
While reading that post makes you think the poster was the dumbest person in the world..

But then again, who knows if this post was posted by this guy himself or someone who wanted to harm him?

Was there any witnesses for the suspected joyride? Etc.
Internet is internet and everything you read here should be taken with two grains of salt.

oh yes its all true,idiot techie posted the whole story of the car he raped including the licenseplate. It didnt take long for fire to spread. That car belongs to guy who posts regulary on http://www.svtperformance.com, lady that dropped the car off was his wife. To make the long story short, tech guy lost his job 2 days later.

[narsus]

Mmmmm Mustangs are yummy for lunch



Couldn't find the non-rally version quickly, STI has a 2.0L engine and cranks out 261-280 horses depending on the country and the gas. 0-60 in about 5 seconds flat

[Birddogg]

0-60 in 5.0 sec?? mustangs do that!!!


0-60mph  is poor way to compare cars performance.. since we're talking acceleration, 1/4 times, 0-60ft times and trap speed would help a bit.

Heres what happens when you put twin turbo on Cobra 4.6L DOHC 32V engine.

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148923

now, that engine makes about 1000+ HP.

Many mustang owners have 400-500Hp range cars that go years without rebuild.. how long will 2.0L 4 cylinder turbocharged 500HP engine last?? weekend?



anything can be made fast, it all depends how much money you're willing to spend. If you wanna go fast for relativley cheap.. get a mustang.. Its has awsome HP to dollar ratio!!

[AKDejaVu]

LOL! briddog... that's the biggest load of propaganda bs I've seen in a long time.

I've not known many people that have had a 500hp engine in anything that didn't last without a large amount of regular maintenance.  Basically... if you want to play you're going to pay.

And 1000hp out of a v8 isn't nearly as impressive as 1200hp out of a 4 cylinder (look up the Quad-4 history)... so don't go with extremes... they prove nothing.

Anyways... mustangs are give and take with DEFINATE advantages AND disadvantages.  Some people weigh some things differently.

Mustangs are not the fastest... there are many riceburners that can keep up for the same $$$.  Mustangs aren't the best handling... there are many cars that will leave it spinning at turn 1.  They're simply good overall cars with a particular strength in acceleration.

Personally, I place that way down on the list of priorities since I find it is something I don't need nearly as often.  I like ride, comfort, handling, mileage, braking and other things first.  I like something there... just not 400 hp worth.

AKDejaVu

[Saurdaukar]

Mmm... Subarus... and everything else for lunch, AND dinner.  

[Birddogg]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu
LOL! briddog... that's the biggest load of propaganda bs I've seen in a long time.

I've not known many people that have had a 500hp engine in anything that didn't last without a large amount of regular maintenance.  Basically... if you want to play you're going to pay.

And 1000hp out of a v8 isn't nearly as impressive as 1200hp out of a 4 cylinder (look up the Quad-4 history)... so don't go with extremes... they prove nothing.

Anyways... mustangs are give and take with DEFINATE advantages AND disadvantages.  Some people weigh some things differently.

Mustangs are not the fastest... there are many riceburners that can keep up for the same $$$.  Mustangs aren't the best handling... there are many cars that will leave it spinning at turn 1.  They're simply good overall cars with a particular strength in acceleration.

Personally, I place that way down on the list of priorities since I find it is something I don't need nearly as often.  I like ride, comfort, handling, mileage, braking and other things first.  I like something there... just not 400 hp worth.

AKDejaVu

Propaganda?

1. I know you havent known a lot of people with 400-500Hp cars that run for years without large maintenance. But i do know quite a few.   Like i said once before.. 2003  Cobra 400hp engine will run 500hp for LOOONG time!!.

2.  I've been around 4.6L modular engines for 8 years now,  and currently own my secon 4.6L modular mustang. Both cars have recieved substantial amdout of modifications. Troughout these 8 years i;ve seen, raced and driven quie a few diffrent mustang setups and  combos . Things that i'm telling you are NOT lies, but are based on experience and things that i've seen, witnessed or read.  With todays techonlogy performance parts and tuning techniques, engines last a lot longer and can withstand higher powerlevels for longer periods of time, hence 300HP 2.0L turbocharged engines that come with manufacturer warranty.


3.  That 1200HP 4 cylinder  hasnt been runing  pump/race gas but on  alcohol mix i belive.. This  v8 1000+ motor runs  on pump/race gasoline depending on the tune.  Thats the big diffrence.  If ya think that 1000 twin turbo on pump/race gas is extreme, check out alcohol powered race only drag enginesV8s.

4. yes, they are great in power and acceleration. They dont handle like a porsche, but dont handle like trucks either. Thats what i've been saying all along.

5. Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks. We all know what we want from our cars, thats why we buy cars that we buy.

6. Handling is always such a touchy subject as there are many diffrent definitions of what people consider "good handling". Each car is designed  diffrently, behaves diffrently and therefore required diffrent methods of driving. Front wheel cars drive and behave diffrently then all wheel or rear wheel drives. There are many ways and techniques of handling and dealing with cars advantages and disadvantages on the track, just like we exploit advantages and disadvantages of  planes in AH.  Dodge Viper handles like a monster yet any idiot can leave it spinning not only in corners but on straight flat roads. Believe me, i;ve seen it first hand.So which car will leave mustangs spinning in the corner? I'll leave that up to you to find out.

[Birddogg]

Just to add something to my previous post:

Mustang owner with 500hp car with stock engine and 47000miles under boost.



My 98 Cobra has seen 47K miles with a blower on it and now has 57K total miles. It is a daily driver and puts down over 500rwhp. The only issues I have ever had were due to my own mistakes.

If you keep your boost at stock levels (approx 8 lbs) and get a good tune, check that tune with any performance mods and recheck it regularly (i.e. timing and a/f ratios), you will very likely enjoy a long life with your engine, even after the blower is added.

One final comment. If there are any weak points in the casting of your pistons they are likely to appear under boost. Generally, if you set up the engine correctly as noted above and you have such a flaw in your engine, it will fail faily soon after you put on your blower. But franky, this is very very rare.

Pros? Great power with a relatively simple and quick modification.
Cons?

1. It could break and be prepared for it to at some point.
2. More moving parts and variables to worry about such as belts, pulleys, fuel pressure, and tuning.
3. Power is addictive so be prepared to spend more money to add more power.

The best mod I ever made so I highly recommend it.

Chris


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[AKDejaVu]

Originally posted by Birddogg


Propaganda?

1. I know you havent known a lot of people with 400-500Hp cars that run for years without large maintenance. But i do know quite a few.   Like i said once before.. 2003  Cobra 400hp engine will run 500hp for LOOONG time!!.

ROTFLMAO! Not alot of assumptions made there eh?  Unless you know someone that's ran a 2003 for more than 2 months?

Really... it is all just propoganda.  You say you know people that have 500hp engines... hell... you even imply that simply adding a blower to your 4.6l gave you 500 hp. Come on man... that stuff probably flies around the mustang forums so much you're actually starting to believe it.

AKDejaVu

[AKDejaVu]

BTW birddog... you put the kind of $$$ into any 4 or 6 cylinder rice burner engine that you put into yours and any mustang you race will see nothing but tail-lights in the 1/4 mile.

AKDejaVu

[Sandman]

BUSTED!

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/9/27/114221/261

[Birddogg]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu
ROTFLMAO! Not alot of assumptions made there eh?  Unless you know someone that's ran a 2003 for more than 2 months?

Really... it is all just propoganda.  You say you know people that have 500hp engines... hell... you even imply that simply adding a blower to your 4.6l gave you 500 hp. Come on man... that stuff probably flies around the mustang forums so much you're actually starting to believe it.

AKDejaVu

 I understang you;re shocked and its hard to believe car can make that power, but  I've personally been present at number of 400-500HP dyno sessions, seen numerous data charts, talked with owners and engine builders over the years.

Yes, im telling you 400-500hp (crank) wiht just the blower and accessoried DUH.. if its got 400HP and 3 year warranty  then 500 no problem. Depending on the size, impeller and piping   basic supercharger kits generally increase cars power by 40-60% and competition type blower are capable of much more. Superchargers are scalable, you can play with them, try to make them spin faster,  make more boost.

No it doesnt fly around the forum, it flys on the street and race tracks!!!How i know that 2003 will withstand 500hp for long time? Because i've seen the rods, i've seen the pistons, crankshaft, block and know what kind of trashing these parts can withstand, ford wouldnt put 400HP  on it if engine wasnt able to handle much higher HP levels. I've seen the dyno data, i've seen them run on the track, and the car has been out in the US sice May, yes i do know someone who owns it  for more then 2 months. These engine combos have been used for years by professional builders before Ford decided to put them on 2003 Cobra. and they DO WORK very well. Ford engine engineers knew what they were doing.



Im starting to believe the rumors?Look,  I think i know more about mustangs and what they're capable then you. You obviously lack of knowledge on this topic.  If you dont want to believe thats fine with me. You can always talk to others.

Originally posted by AKDejaVu

BTW birddog... you put the kind of $$$ into any 4 or 6 cylinder rice burner engine that you put into yours and any mustang you race will see nothing but tail-lights in the 1/4 mile.

AKDejaVu

AKDejaVu [/B]

Ahh i've heard this million times already... every rice burner seems to think this way. Go ahead.. spend that  money, sell your house, and let me know hows it going. Until you can run with the big boys, be quiet and enjoy the show.

[LePaul]

Wholly long, slow loading threads...

Anyways, THIS is the girl replying after discovering it was her car being abused


http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=19809

Apparently the mechanic was fired but the dealership refuses to compensate her for damage done to the car (harsh treatment while the engine is still breaking in, etc)

That's one dealership that should get boycotted (It's Northside Ford in San Antonio, btw.)

[john9001]

this is really funny , one guy says you can drop a blower on a mustang, get 500hp and it will run foever, another guy says the girls engine was "damaged ' by one 140 mph run, who to believe?

[narsus]

Hehe car threads, I like mustangs great value IMO, and there are always mods as well.

I like rally racing hence the STI, AWD, on-road + off-road capability, corners like a dream, and also tons of mods for it.

I plan on chipping it, larger intercooler, exhaust, and turbo. I would like it around the 350 HP range. That should be plenty for the car, I plan on bringing it up to Watkins Glen and some other tracks.

Saurdaukar

911's are sweet no doubt, I just couldn't spend an extra 60k on something for a little more perfromance.

WRX vs 911