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Offline beet1e

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Which Jug is this?
« on: September 30, 2002, 03:45:57 AM »
A friend sent me a picture of this Jug some years ago. I thought he said it was a razor back, but it seems to have a bubble canopy. :confused: Is it a P47C, or one of the later D variants?

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2002, 04:42:01 AM »
Definatly not a razor back. It is a P47 D 25-RE or later. The P47 D25-RE was the first production P47 to be fitted with bubble canopy.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2002, 08:18:54 AM »
See that dorsal on the turtledeck?

Thats a P47N
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2002, 08:47:32 AM »
The tail number indicates it is a P-47D-40-RA.  P-47N fillet is even larger than that one, and has two antennas sticking up on either side of the fillet.  Looks like the "No guts, no glory" P-47 which lives over in England.

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2002, 08:59:11 AM »
What dorsal? The silver think extending from the tail and a bit forward?

Sancho, where can I find information about those numbers. Tried making a search for that number but came up with nothing.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2002, 09:06:26 AM »
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p47.html

Edit: in serial first number indicates the manufacturing year and last 5 digits are serial No. 549385
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Another, slightly crappier, P47 pic.
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2002, 10:00:15 AM »
Thanks for your responses, guys. Nice to hear from like-minded folks who know about P47s. In fact I put this thread in the Off Topic forum because it's about World War 2. ;)

I took this one about four years ago at the Confederate Air Museum - Falcon Field, AZ. I couldn't get a decent angle to take the photo. Any ideas about this one?

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2002, 10:19:59 AM »
Razor Back P47 D. Made a search for it and got the serial number, if I understood Staga right it would be from 1944. Probarly quite early as it have a normal cannopy and not a bubble cannopy.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2002, 10:24:16 AM »
"Civil # N14519 / Ser# 42-8205 / P-47D "Big Stud" / Museum of Flight, Mesa AZ, USA"

from  http://www.warbirds-online.com/warbird/fighterN-Z.htm

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2002, 11:00:59 AM »
Dorsal fillet was added on the D-30 and onwards and enlarged on the D-40. This looks more like a D-30.
The N-series also had square wingtips, which this one doesnt
The CAF Razorback is a P-47G.

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2002, 12:22:13 PM »
Was the Dorsal fin field applied?  I have seen photos of P47ms with no fin, a fin like the D30, and a fin like the "N", high and squared off.

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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2002, 01:36:41 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Staga

Edit: in serial first number indicates the manufacturing year and last 5 digits are serial No. 549385


The first number is actually the fiscal year the contract was awarded to Republic for that production block.  It may not have been manufactured the same year.

Monk, I believe the P-47Ms arrived in England without the dorsal fillets applied. There are some color photos of 63rd FS P-47Ms with bare metal fillets on an otherwise completely painted aircraft.  There are photos of the XP-47M being tested stateside without dorsal fillets applied.  According to Jack Bradshaw, the 56th vet we met at the AH Con '01, some P-47Ms received the tall P-47N model fillet, but most had the low rise one like on the D-30.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2002, 03:07:06 PM »
P-47D

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2002, 03:07:56 PM »
P-47G (Planes of Fame Chino,CA)

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2002, 03:08:35 PM »
P-47M