Author Topic: Iraq allows weapons inspectors back. (Read 515 times)

Thrawn · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:30:56 PM »

Well seems pretty cut and dry to me. I imagine that the Bush and administration is hoping and praying that Saddam will still deny access to the palaces.

Thrawn · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:38:00 PM »

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Glad to have you aboard
Scoot over Grunherz, Thrawn is driving the war train now!
-Sikboy

Took me awhile to come to this way of thinking. I believe that it is the only way the US and Britain can have a justifiable war against Iraq. I honestly don't see what WMD have to do with it...legally speaking.

What's more I believe that the countries that support the Gulf War and the UN resolutions adopted after it have moral obligation to help uphold these resolution, militarily if need be.

10Bears · « **Reply #17 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:41:37 PM »

The chickenhawks will simply raise the bar... We're going in no matter what.

Best to do it before the Nov elections that way Bush can get as much political milage as possiable.

Thrawn · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:43:41 PM »

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Originally posted by 10Bears
The chickenhawks will simply raise the bar... We're going in no matter what.

The question is will the US and Britain go in as countries upholding UN resolutions or as nations states starting a war of agression. Two very different thing.

Sikboy · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:47:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Took me awhile to come to this way of thinking. I believe that it is the only way the US and Britain can have a justifiable war against Iraq. I honestly don't see what WMD have to do with it...legally speaking.

What's more I believe that the countries that support the Gulf War and the UN resolutions adopted after it have moral obligation to help uphold these resolution, militarily if need be.

Personally, I'm still skeptical of any invasion effort. I don't want to see regime change without a solid plan for restructure laid out in advance. I know that this is a pipe dream, and I know that I'll never see it, but that is my one requirement for accepting this as a solution. It can't happen, since any declaration of our intention to promote anything approaching democracy would likely meet with resistence from our Arab "Allies." We are SO close to something huge and wonderfull here (no, not a war, and no, not a bunch of oil) but I'm affraid that it's just out of our grasp.

-Sikboy

Mr. Blonde · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:55:32 PM »

Wtg! You know when ya got it ya got it. Who else besides Mr. Bush Mr. Blair said anything about kicking down the door if inspectors were not let back in. Will we keep this pace up? I hope so! Don't give the bastiges in iraq a chance, keep up the pressure on. For ten years saddam was left to his own devices by governments and a un who thought if they ignored it maybe it would just go away. Thanks to a president and a prime minister with a pair to say what needed to be said and weren't afraid to back it up.

Thrawn · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:56:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy

Personally, I'm still skeptical of any invasion effort. I don't want to see regime change without a solid plan for restructure laid out in advance. I know that this is a pipe dream, and I know that I'll never see it, but that is my one requirement for accepting this as a solution. It can't happen, since any declaration of our intention to promote anything approaching democracy would likely meet with resistence from our Arab "Allies." We are SO close to something huge and wonderfull here (no, not a war, and no, not a bunch of oil) but I'm affraid that it's just out of our grasp.

-Sikboy

How long did it take to develope the Marshal Plan?
Do you think the current US administration wants to creat an independant, democratic Iraq?
Do you think that if there is a diplomatic country in the middle-east, besides Turkey and Isreal, that the others would eventually follow suit?

Thrawn · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2002, 03:59:14 PM »

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Thanks to a president and a prime minister with a pair to say what needed to be said and weren't afraid to back it up.

I have no idea what the reasons are that Bush and Blair want to go into Iraq are. I just have an idea as to how it can be justifiable.

Sikboy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2002, 04:09:37 PM »

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How long did it take to develope the Marshal Plan?

I honestly don't know.

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Do you think the current US administration wants to creat an independant, democratic Iraq?

No. Given the record of democratization efforts in the late 20th century, I don't think that this administration, or any other, is willing to pin their hopes on creating a democratic state in Iraq. I imagine there are elements within the administration who believe that it is possible, but I don't think they are the ones holding the power.

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Do you think that if there is a diplomatic [sic] country in the middle-east, besides Turkey and Isreal, that the others would eventually follow suit?

I don't think that it will happen over night, but I think that if a group of people as diverse as the Iraqi population can live with some degree of freedom, that it will lead to changes. Iran may be on the verge of going forward, Qatar has been reforming. It's possible. I know it's a dream, but it's my dream.

-Sikboy

PS: isn't it nice when we get to have these chats?

Thrawn · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2002, 04:18:24 PM »

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PS: isn't it nice when we get to have these chats?

Damn refreshing.

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #25 on:** October 01, 2002, 04:38:19 PM »

That's it Thrawn! You're out of the O'Club Leftists Club! Take off that tie-die shirt, scrape the Ecology bumper sticker off your car and trade in your mountain bike for a 4x4 truck. Personally I am shocked over this. Sheesh, just when you think you really know someone...

Thrawn · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2002, 04:41:26 PM »

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2002, 04:51:43 PM »

You're off my leftist list Thrawn..... I suppose if Elf threw you out you must have done something really bad even though I dont
know yet what that was, either way you're off the list!!

Wlfgng · « **Reply #28 on:** October 01, 2002, 05:05:04 PM »

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trade in your mountain bike for a 4x4 truck

wha??? can't have both ?!?!?
shite.. oh wait.. maybe a cherokee doesn't count as a truck

Monk · « **Reply #29 on:** October 02, 2002, 06:59:28 AM »

WTG Thrawn.
Welcome Aboard!
I give the Inspections 3 to 6 months before "Ali-Baba" throws them them out.