Author Topic: Tour 32 Fighter vs Fighter stats (Read 1215 times)

Samm · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2002, 09:11:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Wotan
they will go to the 51, 51 is fast otd and its lo speed handling is much better then the la7s.

p51d has better low speed handling than the La7 ? Shhhh, listen. Do you hear that ? cuckoo.. cuckoo

The La7 climbs like a rocket, accelerates like one too, turns quite nicely . The P51d accelerates like a sloth and climbs like a snail, it can however out turn p47's and trains though .

Drunky · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2002, 10:08:04 PM »

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Originally posted by -ammo-
I dunno, if there was ever a candidate for a new perk, the 190d9 is very much one. That and the La7 of course.

P47-D25 has a 1.4 K/D
P47D-11 has a 1.7 K/D

Perk 'em both IMO.

I also noticed that the D9 is the third most likely to kill you:

1) P-51 16 kills
2) SpitIX 11 kills
3) 190-D9 10 kills
4) La-7 6 kills

Funny you should consider the D9 and La-7 (only non_us plane on this list) a "perk" candidate

Regards

-ammo- · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2002, 10:22:11 PM »

yea, I based my comments on an underlying motive. It is a conspiracy you know. We all hate you nazi flyers.

poopster · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2002, 10:31:43 PM »

The missun types definately should leave the F4U's to the fighter crowd...

Lawn darting after "thingy" release is spoiling the Hogs numbers..

WHASSSUUUUUUUUUUP WIT DAT ???

When your hangin thingys off you plane...

Use a Tiffy

Us reeel fiter pilots would greatly appreciate it..

Regards,

Drunky · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2002, 10:59:32 PM »

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Originally posted by -ammo-
We all hate you nazi flyers.

Not trying to sound like Hillary Clinton, "There is a major right wing conspiracy"...BUT

There are many, many other good planes to worry about than the D9.

The D9 is the plane that JG/2 flies the most often when together. We tend to do well in this plane (noted in another post) and this might skew the overall numbers.

Notice that everyone is screaming about perking the La-7. Think about this...the La-7 has a 1.3 K/D for Tour 32 with a total of 2,593 kills. Holy Kills Batman, perk this plane because it's UBER...LOL.

This is a matter of perception really (and yes numbers can lie if they are presented (in)correctly).

There are many other planes that can outperform the D9 in many categories. As has been pointed out about the La-7 (the plane may be uber, but not the pilot) it comes down to the pilot being able to fly his/her plane well.

Screaming about perking a plane is whinning, plane (sp hehehe) and simple.

Rhetorical questions follow:

Should we perk every plane that has a 1.0 K/D ratio and above?
Should we perk every plane that has total kills over 2,000?

Think...then speak.

poopster · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2002, 11:15:15 PM »

I've thought about it..

Mulled it over, looked at both sides...

Pondered...

Slept on it..

And...

After all of that thinking..

Words escape me...

-ammo- · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2002, 11:23:42 PM »

who is screaming?

Wotan · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2002, 11:51:06 PM »

I flown the p51d Samm as a matter fact for a short time I was in 51 squad. The 51d handles better at slow speeds then the la7.

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yea, I based my comments on an underlying motive. It is a conspiracy you know. We all hate you nazi flyers.

Ammo thats uncalled for.

Drunky · « **Reply #23 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:06:11 AM »

Indeed...I am guilty of over-dramatization as those who want to perk a plane.

No one has screamed.

For that I apologize

My points are the same, notwithstanding.

Also please note that JG/2 accounted for over 6% during Tour 32 (838 of 13,697) of the 190D9 kills during Tour 32.

Samm · « **Reply #24 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:30:23 AM »

Wotan if by handle better you mean has a larger sustained turn radius and higher stall speed then I guess you're right .

I can't even get an La to spin but a p51d will spin on me when I'm not even trying to spin it .

Wotan · « **Reply #25 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:33:36 AM »

its not an arguement believe what you want. imho the p51d handles better at low speeds then the la7.

Samm · « **Reply #26 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:38:29 AM »

If it were subjective then it would be a matter of opinion .

Innominate · « **Reply #27 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:41:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Samm
Wotan if by handle better you mean has a larger sustained turn radius and higher stall speed then I guess you're right .

I can't even get an La to spin but a p51d will spin on me when I'm not even trying to spin it .

Wotan is both right, and wrong.

The p51d, flaps out will turn inside an la7 without trouble. This SOUNDS good except that the la7 doesn't get into a low speed turning fight unless it's pilot is chopping the throttle.

So the p51d drops flaps and starts turning, la7 flies straight for a few seconds, goes vertical, and ganks the now helpless p51.

The speed of the la7 merely exaggerates it's unbelievable acceleration.

Samm · « **Reply #28 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:57:47 AM »

Even with flaps the p51b won't turn inside an La7 on the deck. Do some tests .

-ammo- · « **Reply #29 on:** October 06, 2002, 01:40:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Drunky
Indeed...I am guilty of over-dramatization as those who want to perk a plane. No one has screamed.

For that I apologize

My points are the same, notwithstanding.

Also please note that JG/2 accounted for over 6% during Tour 32 (838 of 13,697) of the 190D9 kills during Tour 32.

I apologize too for the Nazi comment. I was only trying over-dramatize myself:)