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Offline Furball

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« on: October 04, 2002, 07:52:01 PM »
a few extracts from http://www.rcaf.com/archives/418intruder/index.shtml doesnt sound like our mossie much :(

Let me tell you a little bit about the Mosquito. This was the Mk. VI. It was capable of carrying a good bomb load: four 500 pound bombs, and it was armed with four 20 mm Hispano cannons mounted underneath the aircraft. It had, as well, four .303 machine guns in the nose, and all of this really provided devastating fire power. It flew more like a fighter than a bomber and, furthermore, it was at the time the fastest aircraft in the world. At sea level, it could do about 375 miles per hour full out, the odd one could do about 385. At altitude, say 20,000 feet, the Mosquito was capable of flying over 400 miles per hour. Now that doesn't sound very fast today, but in those days it was the fastest aircraft around. You remember the Mosquito was originally designed as a very fast bomber, that was supposed to be able to fly to Berlin in daylight, and bomb it without being successfully opposed. It was later convened into a fighter-bomber

The Mosquito was so feared by the Germans at this point, that it counted for the top score towards getting a "Ritter kreuze", the German Iron Cross. If a pilot or ack-ack crew shot down a single~ngine aircraft he got one point towards a "Ritterkreuze", for a twin-engine aircraft he got two points, for a bomber or a transport - three points, and for a Lancaster or Halifax or a Fortress - four points. But if you shot down a Mosquito, you got five points! With seven points, you got a "Ritterlireuze". Now this fact we did not know at the time and in fact I did not know until Jack told me, was that these kids came running up with their rifles and immediately arrested Jack and his navigator and they were just jumping up and down with excitement. They kept shouting "Ritterkreuze!! Ritterkreuze!!" - because they already had some points and now they had got a Mosquito, and that was five points! Then the Corporal in charge of the ack-ack crew, spotted Jack's three stripes. Jack was a Wing Commander, good for another three points, so one of the lads started jumping again yelling "Ritterkreuze!! mit clusters!! mit clusters!!". An amusing sidelight to an actual experience.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2002, 10:16:33 PM »
Neat story about the Mossie and the German medal scoring.  I'm skeptical of the speeds listed, though I have seen many pilot "sources" that say the Mossie 6 could do a bit better than 350mph on the deck.  Significantly faster than the 338mph ours does.

Still, our Mossie's 338mph is way, way better than the Mossie 6 in WBIII' that maxes at about 310mph on the deck.


BTW, your signature story is an urban legend / joke.  It might be wise to edit it out.  In addition to that, it is rather long for a signature.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2002, 07:39:28 AM »
im not gonna disagree with someone that actually flew the mossie! and i like my signature :P
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2002, 07:16:00 PM »
damn canucks.  ;)

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2002, 07:38:54 PM »
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damn canucks.  ;)


Let the rest of the world poke fun at us, it's just a way for them to deal with thier jealousy. :D

The final part of that sig is cut out anyways, it ends with a cruise missile strike on the offending smartass lighthouse operator. :D

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2002, 08:21:59 AM »
our mossie is slow and weak, and stalls easy

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2002, 12:01:25 PM »
I think what you guys are asking for is a much later version of the mosquito; the VI is not porked, it's a 1943 moquito and we have a late '44 arena.

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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2002, 03:55:40 PM »
Canada..the 51st state.

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2002, 05:31:48 PM »
they sure are.  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2002, 08:44:08 PM »
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Originally posted by Innominate


Let the rest of the world poke fun at us, it's just a way for them to deal with thier jealousy. :D

The final part of that sig is cut out anyways, it ends with a cruise missile strike on the offending smartass lighthouse operator. :D


So true ;)

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2002, 01:48:51 AM »
See what your sig has done?!?!

Its Hijacked your own thread!!!:p

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2002, 02:57:55 AM »
S!

Last time you Yanks tried to make Canada a State, you got your butts kicked.

Look up the battle of Chateauguay, 1813.

http://www.galafilm.com/1812/e/events/chateaugauy.html

Around 300 Canadian Voltigeurs manhandled an army of 3,000 U.S. Militia who were headed for Montreal.

And don't go quoting any lines from "The Battle of New Orleans"

That was some handsomehunk British General.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2002, 05:35:51 AM »
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The Mosquito was so feared by the Germans at this point, that it counted for the top score towards getting a "Ritter kreuze", the German Iron Cross. If a pilot or ack-ack crew shot down a single~ngine aircraft he got one point towards a "Ritterkreuze", for a twin-engine aircraft he got two points, for a bomber or a transport - three points, and for a Lancaster or Halifax or a Fortress - four points. But if you shot down a Mosquito, you got five points! With seven points, you got a "Ritterlireuze"


This part of the story is not even close to reality. Someone might have looked a bit to deep into the "mossie Myth".

1st Ritterkreuz is not "German Iron Cross"

Ritterkreuz means the "Knightscross"

And for 7 Points you would not even have gotten the Knightscross in early 1940.
In 1942 the "pointcosts" for a Knightscross were somewhere between 40 - 70.


For medal scorig there were just 3 categories:

1 Point: fighter kill
2 Points: 2-eng buff kill
3 Points: 4-eng buff kill

No 4 point and surely no freaking 5 points for a mossie.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2002, 06:06:36 AM »
Bump to speed up the Mossie. My fav ship.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2002, 01:16:36 PM »
yep the mossie is wrong...

and thats the funniest damn sig. i have ever seen...just like the americans to mistake the radar sig of a lighthouse for 1 of a boat.  if i was the lighthouse i would have said i changed course and let them find out what i was hte hard way...



how sad you hijacked your own post.