Author Topic: time once again for the toughen the CV "discussion" (Read 1260 times)

lazs2 · « **on:** October 09, 2002, 08:40:29 AM »

Ok.. haven't hashed this one over in a while but... with all the new guys and with the old guys getting in touch with their feminine side and getting oh so much more timid...

We need to toughen up the CV's.. They are often times the site of the only good fite in the entire arena but...

their life expectancy is extremely short. Some "helpful" attention starved twit will destroy either the CV. And proudly announce his "accomplishment" to The dozens of guys that were merrilly furballing away there.... the furballers will mill around for another 10-20 minutes fighting over the one or two planes still up or, in desperation, shoot at a Pt boat or two. Pitiful.

Most times, so far as I can see... the CV is of no threat to the "strat". It is no threat to anything except the other CV or the field it is near. It is so slow that it is easy to keep track of and if it ever does become a threat... well.... maybe more than a suiced p47 or p38 should be needed to take it out.

I don't think that adding a CV and a few escorts to each group and/or making the CV's at least twice as tough would be out of the question. I can't really see how that would affect the gameplay of the (cough) "strat" guys but it would increase the fun of a number of players.

lazs

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2002, 08:50:29 AM »

Awwwwe...someone took Lazs ball away again.

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2002, 08:53:47 AM »

This is an incredibly pissant discussion.

lazs2 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:06:31 AM »

exactly rip.. I don't mind that so much as I mind the EASE of which they did it.
lazs

Janov · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:13:45 AM »

Lasz,

have you tried UnrealTournament? Might be exactly what you are looking for!

Litjan, 9./JG54 "Gruenherz"

Fariz · « **Reply #5 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:16:36 AM »

I think CV is too tough, and that is unfair. For example, spit I pilots has less chances to kill it with their .303s, than tiffie pilot with 2000lb and 4 hispanos. So, to make fleet political correct, make it 10lb, so anyone can kill it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:22:38 AM »

janov... have you looked into some of the board games they have for WWII? maybe everquest might be more your style?
lazs

Rude · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:24:16 AM »

I'm not sure exactly how this has happened and to be completely honest, it scares me somewhat, but..........I agree with Lazs regarding this point.

When my squad can decide to load heavy and make one pass on the CV, sinking it, that's kinda easy.

I believe that not only would we enjoy more of a challenge, but the furball guys would benefit as well.

Forget about that cross country putz.....you've got serious work to be done here!!!

Turbot · « **Reply #8 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:49:55 AM »

Simple. Only award ship kill to a pilot that lands safely.

Shane · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2002, 09:56:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Turbot
Simple. Only award ship kill to a pilot that lands safely.

people don't kill cv's for the points. there's much more to be earned killing the low carrier planes who are trying to jabo the base.

Turbot · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2002, 10:02:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane

people don't kill cv's for the points. there's much more to be earned killing the low carrier planes who are trying to jabo the base.

Perhaps true for you, but otherwise this runs contrary to what those (usually suicide) pilots say on channel one. Typical reply "I get major points for killing CV's" or some such.

Fariz · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2002, 10:05:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Turbot
Simple. Only award ship kill to a pilot that lands safely.

Simple? It will not stop cv's from being suicide attacked. Because people who jabo cv do not care about scores anyway, or they would take attacker and bomb enemy factories surrounded with friendly fields with a minimum risk for their belowed scores.

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2002, 10:23:21 AM »

Wasn't the CV just softened in 1.09 from 13K to 8K needed to sink it?

Turbot · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2002, 10:42:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Fariz

Simple? It will not stop cv's from being suicide attacked. Because people who jabo cv do not care about scores anyway, or they would take attacker and bomb enemy factories surrounded with friendly fields with a minimum risk for their belowed scores.

It is easy to kill CV and land, if anyone cared to learn to play the game.

SlapShot · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2002, 10:45:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Wasn't the CV just softened in 1.09 from 13K to 8K needed to sink it?

Actually I think it was toughened from 6K to 8K.

I agree that the CV must be toughened also, but not for the Lazs reasons. Increasing the toughness of the CV should probably be directly linked to the increasing amount of players in the MA. It is very easy now to kill the CV with the amount of available JABO pilots in the air, in combination with bomber groups.

1 bomber group (3 plane box) should be able to sink the CV all by itself with a perfect hit and all ordinance on the CV. I don't fly buffs, so what is the maximum amount of ordinance that a bomber group can carry ? That should be the amount of tonnage it should take to sink the CV.