Author Topic: Homeland Security - official welcome to police state? (Read 530 times)

miko2d · « **on:** October 09, 2002, 11:25:11 AM »

If a dissident Web site insinuated that a symbol for Homeland Security should be an eyeball floating behind a keyhole, with an upside-down american flag (sign of extreme distress or grave insult) in the background, it would be accused of fomenting panic.

Seeing this logo on a page of United States Patent and Trademark Office makes me think they know something we should worry about.

Speaking of paranoia-inducing logos, what could be better than a masonic Eye-in-the-Pyramid blasting a mysterious ray across the globe adorned with Scientia est Potentia ("Knowledge is Power") motto? If we are so blunt, why come up with the coy "Information Awareness Office" name for the new wing of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

miko

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:29:55 AM »

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

midnight Target · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:36:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

Damned if that isn't straight out of the "Sayings of Tailgunner Joe"

AvidMC · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:41:36 AM »

Ahhhh looks as if the brain numbing tablets are working well on Ripsnort. I would suggest that if you have no reasonable suspicion then you have no right to my privacy. If I remember correctly it is innocent till proven guilty, not guilty till I can prove innocence. If we become a police state where individuals rights are sacrificed under the guise of "Well if you have nothing to hide" then I say the terrorists have won.
Avid

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:43:46 AM »

This makes me want to buy a shotgun, with some of that urban assault ammo from US Cavalry...

Can never be too safe....
-SW

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:46:32 AM »

Hell, we wouldn't have known that woman was beating her 4 yr old child had it not been for a survelliance camera...are you guys saying you want it to go unknown that children are being beaten?

Damn, you liberals have no heart....

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:48:33 AM »

Rip, if that's bait.... it's gone bad....
-SW

midnight Target · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:53:19 AM »

No no, Rip is right. For the children, lets install surveilance cameras in all homes. I mean, if you got nothing to hide......

I volunteer to watch over the Playboy mansion.

Sikboy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:55:26 AM »

Everybody take cover! They have LOGOS!

-Sikboy

AvidMC · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:56:41 AM »

Well Rip ya make a good point, as a matter of fact I am concerned about what you might be doing at this very moment. So, please hook up a webcam and give all of us the URL. After that please keep that web cam pointed at you at all times so that I can be sure you are not doing anything wrong...no go ahead....I'll wait...you have nothing to hide right???? I just love you ignorant knuckleheads that are so willing to give away your personal freedoms.

Avid

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2002, 11:56:45 AM »

LEGOS??? THEY HAVE LEGOS????
-SW

narsus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2002, 12:18:03 PM »

Well I don't agree with everything homeland security is doing, but my life hasn't changed a bit since 9/11.

What I mean is I still travel, been on 3 vacations in the last year. My day to day life has not changed at all, I do nothing differently now that I did last year. I don't worry about being bombed, shot, nuked, poisoned, etc. I have a much greater chance on dying or getting hurt driving to work everyday than any of the items I listed.

Cameras in stores, street corners etc. I don't steal, beat children, kill anybody, build bombs, run traffic lights, speed (ok maybe speed) even with that many people in this country believe yoiur only breaking the law if you are caught. If I am arrested for such things by mistake, it happens they can search my house, talk to my friends etc. and I will be let go.

My life is an open book, and I don't mind these measures...they are not extreme in my mind.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2002, 12:45:53 PM »

Bingo Narsus. Political posturing is what the anti-homeland security crowd is doing.

Incidently, I already have survelliance on my house, you come to my door, I see you before you see me

Don't forget I'm armed, and have a big dog too.

Sikboy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2002, 12:56:36 PM »

I called the USPTO in regard to their evil clip-art, but THEY HAVE YET TO RETURN MY CALL! WHAT ARE THEY HIDING!!!! Ms. Franky Cox, what size are your Jackboots!?!?!?

-Sikboy

(No, serriously, I did call them)

Curval · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2002, 01:01:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

Why did I get visions of an NKVD officer when I read this;)