Author Topic: buffs are not good (Read 709 times)

Citabria · « **on:** October 10, 2002, 06:28:31 AM »

is there any changes planned for buffs?

ie better drone damage model
stronger guns (guns have been toned down a lot)
better convergence
ai gunners?
old bombsite?

Wilbus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2002, 06:51:26 AM »

Guns are the same I think but convergence should be put closer. New bomb sight just as good as the old one once one gets to know it. you just gotto take some time setting it up.

Drone dammage modell sucks (as do overall AH DM but drones are just way worse). Another thing that needs fixing is the way drones behave when the lead buff turns, easy to make the fighter miss the drones by just making a small and slow turn (cause drones to warp several hundred yards).

Wilbus · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2002, 06:53:23 AM »

Btw, try a very fun thing, nothing to do with them being badly modelled or so.

Try getting a few players together and do a carbet bombing, looks WAY cool!

blkdvl · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2002, 06:57:36 AM »

Heheh Thats for sure.

Wilbus · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2002, 07:06:08 AM »

One thing Cit. Believe HTC said that the towns will be made bigger, think up to 4 times as big then now. They want the buffs to crabet bomb town while Jabos should be forced to concentrate on small targets such as hangers, fuel dumps, acks etc.

blkdvl · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2002, 07:09:02 AM »

Just curious..are there any squads that actually do that here? Carpet bomb I mean. No troll...just looking is all.

Mitsu · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2002, 07:19:01 AM »

Revvin · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2002, 10:51:40 AM »

Yes No.9 carpet bombs infact it's a method we use all the time along with dropping on the lead bombers command which works well. We generally fly close formation, Sunday night we had 15 Lancs (5 pilots with drones) around 300yrds from lead bomber to tail end charlie and try to get closer when approaching target so that only the lead bomber has to calibrate and call the drop for the others waitign with their bomb doors open. I don't if they have been toned down but the buff guns sure feel that way over the last month or so although drones now react better to changes in course, elevation or maybe I'm just usedto them now and compensate with slower movements.

Puck · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:02:13 AM »

I rather like the new bomber model, now that I'm getting used to it.

Things that I'd like to see added include a dot command for lateral separation. HT said the code is in place, just needs the front end. Getting a damage report from all three drones would be nice, as would the ability to send a badly damaged drone "home" rather than have it try to keep up on one engine and self destruct.

The other gripe is the tendancy of drones to fall back and self destruct. This is really a problem in lancs when you change your .speed setting on climb out.

Otherwise Keep 'em the same. If Fester wants to be the number 1 ranked in everything again he needs to learn the new bomber model

Wilbus · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:09:27 AM »

Cut throttle and the drones with dammaged engines can keep up.

Puck · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:12:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Cut throttle and the drones with dammaged engines can keep up.

Oh, that's JUST what I want. Slow the whole box down and bleed altitude because a drone got dinged. Makes level bombing hard when you can't fly level.

Alpo · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:16:27 AM »

One thing that I would like HTC to look at is the sever warping that occurs with the drones after you kill the lead buff. It's almost a cloaking effect as the drones will blink in and out until the player takes control of one of the remaining planes.

Unfortunately, this happens to me quite a bit as I target the lead buff, destroy it and then as I'm 300 yds from the drones, they start blinking and you can't hit them for squat.

Revvin · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:18:36 AM »

Puck> Thats a very good idea and one I'd like to see

Midnight · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:32:51 AM »

Damage definately needs some work.

One of the more annoying problems I see now is the huge warping that goes on with the drones when the lead plane (the one with the player pilot) is shot down. The drones end up warping all over the place for a few seconds.

The other night, I was attacking a formation of B17s with two other pilots. Just as I was shooting, the lead bomber was killed by one of the other guys I was with. The drone I was aiming at warped (some where) totally out of my visual range and then reappeared again after I went by where he was.

There also seems to be a bug that allows planes with cannos to kill all three bombers (even B17s and Lancs) in a single guns pass. I've seen cases where three B17s explode in less than 5 seconds, all by a single 109.

Wilbus · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2002, 11:37:40 AM »

A b17 can fly level with 2 engines, specially with the low fuel all B17's use in AH.

I for one wouldn't wanna see an arena full of AI drones trying to make it back to base.