Author Topic: B-24 request for AH (Read 727 times)

rickod · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2001, 12:01:00 PM »

I personally would like to see every plane that was modelled in Warbirds Modelled in here and then some
then have the arenas broken down into time periods

1938-1941 european
1938-1941 pacific

1941-1943 european
1941-1943 pacific

1943-1944 european
1943-1944 pacific

with 1945 being its own arena so all the jet dweebs can hang out and shoot each other down

Of course there are a few planes not modelled in either that I would also like to see added like the aerocobra and the gloster meteor for the 1945 arena so the damn 262's will have some competition

Kieran · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2001, 03:26:00 PM »

With all due respect, Fdiron, you are wrong here.

The Russians produced the Il-4 by the thousands. It was one of the best medium bombers of the war. The Tu-2 was not far behind. The SM79 was a superlative torpedo bomber. As in the B29 thread, this plane is in the "it would be great later" category.

StSanta · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2001, 06:31:00 PM »

B24 would be nice.

Would be even nicer to get a Jap or Russian bomber first. The US is well represented, the Brits got a great buff, the LW has a good milkrunner...

Urchin · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2001, 07:00:00 PM »

I'd love the B-24 in AH. As far as German 'bombers' go.. no thanks. I'd much rather see the German Zerstorsers instead (110,410) and the fantastic He-219.

-ammo- · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2001, 07:17:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin:
I'd love the B-24 in AH. As far as German 'bombers' go.. no thanks. I'd much rather see the German Zerstorsers instead (110,410) and the fantastic He-219.

cough, I am picking up myself off the floor

Thx Urchin

Tac · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2001, 07:38:00 PM »

NO!. You can after the A-26, something that would REALLY be usefull and survivable in the MA.

And its purtier

Kieran · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2001, 07:54:00 PM »

Ammo

416mph, 42k ceiling, 4x30mm cannon, 2x20mm cannon... nothing to sneeze at. He219 would give Lancs at alt a nasty fright with the oblique cannon.

[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: Kieran ]

brady · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2001, 08:25:00 PM »

Ya know what HTC screwed up by adding the B 17 instead of the B 24

, is it me or is this the mother of all catch 22's? The only reasion we don't have both is the time it takes to model theam, and prodduction numbers are not realy revelent when deciding what aircraft should be added, yes the B 24 was produced in huge numbers and was vital to the war effort. The Ki 67 was not produced in huge numbers by comparision but was vital to the Japanese war effort at the time. What is vital to HTC in deciding what to add? Dificult to say, depends on what you are talking about, fighters, tanks, ships, buffs. Insomuch as buffs are concerened, i can't imagine that a B 24 would be vital at this point ( I hope that goes for an A 26 as well, I suspect howeaver that is not the case), the sole reasion for this is the presence of the B 17. Personaly I would rather see the B 24 than the B 17, I like the B 24 more, always have.

On the subject of the A 26, I suspect it is a likely addation because of it's spead, and aramement and durabality, it is the best in it's class, and as Pyro has stated in the past he does not realy care what the country of orgin is he simply looks at how capable the platform is.

Bering this in mind, Planes like the He 177,Cant Z 1007( better than a SM 79),P 108, TU 2, Ki 67, Coranado, Me 410, and the A 26, all would be great addations to the MA

-ammo- · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2001, 09:05:00 PM »

Oh I wasnt saying that keiren. I was just commenting on urchin's promotion for a b24. I am a big supporter of all the LW twin fighter/bombers we can get!! Not as much as I want to fly them (I do)

But because the 56th FG faced these AC in large numbers. Th bigger the planeset, the happier I become. I think there are many exciting things coming for our planeset, I have seen a few things that most people havent....Trust me, there will be some happy people

The B24 would be nice I think.

Everyone has there own logic for what they think is needed in AH. Brady has an idea about giving some diversity for the different countries represented here. I am looking at it differently. Everyone here has there own ideas

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brady · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2001, 09:42:00 PM »

Thanks ammo.

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Citabria · « **Reply #25 on:** January 01, 2002, 01:27:00 AM »

the b24 from the bomber dweebs point of view is the most logical choice for a new buff.

buff dweebs need more bombers that "Can Do" the job. get to the target, bomb it, and fight their way out.

people wonder why buffs are not used much in the MA. it is a combination of 3 buffs that can survive in the MA , carry a heavy bomb load and no new buffs that can.

flying these three planes in the MA gets old.

throw the buff dweebs a new toy that they can actually use in the arena.

I love seeing these new jap and ruskie buffs but they are featherwieghts with no real usefulness in heavy bombardment er buffing.

brady · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2002, 01:17:00 PM »

Well seperating medieum from Heavy buffs, and focusing on the latter. The He 177 and the P 108, and the Coranado could all do what u say, all cary heavy loads and all are heavely armed, so why not add one of theam instead of a B 24 other than you may like the B 24 for personal reasions more?

Insomuch as medieum buffs are concerened the TU 2 and Ki 67 are both fast and well armed, although the latter has a lighter bomb load, the Cant Z 1007 has a bigger bomb load than the B 26 and a better defensive arament than the JU 88, and is torpedo capable, realy with the inclushion of the TU 2 and ki 67 only Italy will not have a medieum Buff.

Steven · « **Reply #27 on:** January 01, 2002, 07:15:00 PM »

I would think the B24 is a good candidate because it is popular and would survive the MA and would allow for some nice Scenario missions outside the MA. However, Fester shot me down today so I have to rescind my support for the Liberator. heh heh. ;-)

Karnak · « **Reply #28 on:** January 01, 2002, 07:55:00 PM »

The B-24 doesn't bring anything new to AH. B-17s participated in almost all actions that the B-24 did and so may be used in those scenarios. The B-17 and Lanc provide a nice choice, take firepower or take bombload. The B-24 is only a slight adjustment to the B-17, take a couple more bombs or be a little bit tougher. The higher cruise speed of the B-24 would be irrelevant in AH because nobody uses cruising speed. Everybody just firewalls it and keeps it there.

I would like to see the B-29A as a perk bomber. That would be awesome.

Kieran,

From what I've read Heinkel said the He219 would do 419mph, but in Luftwaffe service it never could maintain even 400mph.

The stats on it are "manufacturer" stats.

In the actual event, the Mossie NF.XXX proved to be better.

I'd definately like to see an He219 though. Real neat looking aircraft.

Kieran · « **Reply #29 on:** January 01, 2002, 08:00:00 PM »

Yeah, I'm not sure what niche it would find, but that's a lot of firepower. The oblique cannons are the real interesting part, though. No longer would you need to get above the buff for an effective run, and the Lanc especially would have a much tougher way to go.