Ack is silly

[dosequis]

Flying at 1000 feet at 450 ias over an enemy airbase, you can be pinged.

Enough said.

Ack monkeys are bad enough with the inevitable WAVE of M16s that show just before a field is taken. Somebody get HTC to make the ack at a field mannable, and then KILL OTTO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate him. I do.

XX

[popeye]

I think the ack is pretty well tuned now.  It WILL kill you if you bore in straight at it, but it is also easily avoided.  I have killed six acks in a Spit IX and lived to RTB.  Killing them with a cannon Hog or Jug is almost too easy.

As for the horde of M-16's -- just think of them as player-controlled ack.  

popeye

[Dago]

My vote goes with Popeye.  I think the ack is set up very well now.  It keeps an enemy on guard, but isnt quite as good as it was when it seemed to be lazar guided radar controlled.

M16s add a fun dimension to the game, and are easy to kill with a few placed rounds, and easy to stop with a will placed couple bombs on the VH.

Dago

[Udie]

 I learned a way to take out 4 or 5 acks on 1 guns run    It works best in the p47.  Just dive real fast, start shooting when your close to the ground. Then simply drag your gunsight around to as many acks as you can on that pass.  They go down rather quickly  

Udie

[dosequis]

Can you guys send me film of you doing it?

XX

[AKDejaVu]

There is only 1 rule with ack in this game:

Straight Line = death

Keep turning and you'll be ok.  I think if I had a machine gun and you were flying in a straight line... I could figure out how much to lead you pretty quickly.

AKDejaVu

[funked]

The ack is still doing things that even a modern radar-guided automatic gun would have trouble doing.  I agree with XX - let's get rid of otto.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 07-16-2000).]

[Greg 'wmutt' Cook]

The only things I would like to see with the ack is making it a bit more human.  Make it "suprise-able" by lowlevel attacks, and give it a target handoff delay from gun to gun.  Also, possibly give the guns a set ammount of ammo then a breif pause for reloading.  Of course, manable ack from the tower would rock too.

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Greg 'wmutt' Cook
332nd Flying Mongrels

[Ripsnort]

IMO, its fine as is, any less would greatly encourage vulching.  I've  learned to take out 7 of 8 ack in one sortie (Thanks Zig!) ...the 8th one always gets me! Mental block me thinks.  If you're going to vulch, you're going to have to  develope skills to learn to take ack down first.

[Kieren]

P47-30 = 5 dead acks at least. I love ack the way it is. If you screw up it kills you, but if you use your head you kill it.

[Ripsnort]

Sidenote:  Historically speaking,I can't recollect  how many accounts of fighter/bombers that only made "one-pass" on enemy airfields  due to the fact that it was suicide to do otherwise.(unless of course it had been previously 'softened' by buffs)

[Wanker]

I think it would be fun to be able to "take over" for otto whenever someone gets the urge to do so.

So, if I wanted to try my luck at bagging a group of buffs ranging back & forth over my field, I could type a command to jump in otto's chair and start flinging 88's around myslef. When I've had enough, I leave and Otto resumes duty.

[Karnak]

Taking out the Otto gunners would cripple any side that had fewer people logged on.  Even with equal forces, all I'd have to do is go attack so base in the backfield while everybody was focused on the hot zones and I'd be able to do whatever I wanted to the field.

There simply arn't enough people, nor is sitting in a AAA battery interesting enough, to replace Otto with human players.

Sisu
-Karnak

[StSanta]

l, how about taking over aaa whenever you feel the urge?

Would be mucho fun to fire the 40mm's  

[av8or]

You have to practice at killing ack and there are several styles of killing ack with a fighter.I still have no idea how my wingman does it.I get kilt everytime untill i do it my way even still i get killed every couple of times.