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Offline eagl

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How do you know if your Windows CD is porked?
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2002, 09:30:14 AM »
Did you run a good memory checking program?  I have one that creates a boot floppy and it runs for a while thoroughly checking ram.  I found that one of my 2 256 meg DDR sticks was bad this way.

Also, if a western digital drive is the only drive on an ide channel (the only one plugged into it's cable), you may need to remove ALL jumpers from the master/slave/csel jumper block.  Dunno why they do that, but it's happened to me.

Check to see if the hard drive has it's own power supply cable, not shared cable with fans and such.

Try a bios update for your mobo if you haven't already done so.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2002, 09:52:41 AM »
Eskimo,

 Make sure primary ide= hd set as master on pins
                  secondary ide= dvd set as master on cable

 each device should be set as master on its own cable

 in the bios make sure ide stuff set to auto

 make sure red stripe on cables go to pin1 on devices(usually towards power connector)


 if that dont fix dvd (atapi prob) then i'd bet device is junk

Oh, and use  win98se, not that junk ME

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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2002, 10:23:09 AM »
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Originally posted by eagl
Did you run a good memory checking program?  I have one that creates a boot floppy and it runs for a while thoroughly checking ram.  I found that one of my 2 256 meg DDR sticks was bad this way.

* No, but I only have one memory stick

Also, if a western digital drive is the only drive on an ide channel (the only one plugged into it's cable), you may need to remove ALL jumpers from the master/slave/csel jumper block.  Dunno why they do that, but it's happened to me.

* My HDD jumper is set to single HDD

Check to see if the hard drive has it's own power supply cable, not shared cable with fans and such.

* Check
Try a bios update for your mobo if you haven't already done so.

I'll try that next..



thanks

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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2002, 10:25:24 AM »
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Originally posted by blackfalcon4
Eskimo,

 Make sure primary ide= hd set as master on pins
                  secondary ide= dvd set as master on cable

*check

 each device should be set as master on its own cable

 in the bios make sure ide stuff set to auto

* I'll go check that...

 make sure red stripe on cables go to pin1 on devices(usually towards power connector)

* check


 if that dont fix dvd (atapi prob) then i'd bet device is junk

Oh, and use  win98se, not that junk ME


Thanks,

(anyone else reccomend 98 for gaming?)

eskimo

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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2002, 10:42:21 AM »
Eskimo, I run ME for gaming and 2000 for graphic programs and all programs that needs a good stable platform such as 3D Software (Gmax and 3D Studio). However, 2000 is slower for games.

For games I run Windows ME and get about 10 fps better then in 2000. 98 is JUNK IMO, ME better, faster startup and slightly more stable (blue screen of death is still common thouhg).

I've gone through almost every Microsoft OS from DOS to present, early windows, late windows, 95 and 98, 95 upgraded and 98 upgraded. Best OS you can get for the games is ME or XP. Unfortunatly XP won't install on my computer since I changed Main board.

Best microsoft OS is 2000 and XP Professional (XP home sucks).

Best for gaming is either ME or XP IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2002, 11:14:20 AM »
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Eskimo, I run ME for gaming and 2000 for graphic programs and all programs that needs a good stable platform such as 3D Software (Gmax and 3D Studio). However, 2000 is slower for games.

For games I run Windows ME and get about 10 fps better then in 2000. 98 is JUNK IMO, ME better, faster startup and slightly more stable (blue screen of death is still common thouhg).

I've gone through almost every Microsoft OS from DOS to present, early windows, late windows, 95 and 98, 95 upgraded and 98 upgraded. Best OS you can get for the games is ME or XP. Unfortunatly XP won't install on my computer since I changed Main board.

Best microsoft OS is 2000 and XP Professional (XP home sucks).

Best for gaming is either ME or XP IMO.


Thanks,

Unfortunately, no one agrees.  Many folks in different threads are saying the exact opposite of each othe rin regards to Win. OS's and gameplay.   I think I'll go try banging my head against the wall, maybe I'll feel better after that.

Seriously though, thanks for you input.  I was just hoping for a universal agreement that one Win. OS was worth a damn.

eskimo

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2002, 11:37:58 AM »
Eskimo, I think ME is better, it's a bit faster (much faster startup).

However, from gaming purpose, there isn't much difference between 98 or ME. If you have 98, use it, if you have ME, use it. It is more about taste here.

However, before you can use any of them, you must get the computer to work proparly, the porblem is most likely in the settings for the DVD.

The DVD should be placed on SECONDARY IDE, and be set as SECONDARY MASTER (it is all alone at that IDE and thus it MUST be MASTER)

If it is set as SECONDARY SLAVE and alone on the IDE things will F*** up.

Check inside the computer, hard to help you over internet like this as I can't see inside your computer.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2002, 05:51:49 PM »
Sounds like your getting corruption during the install.

Make sure you have smartdrv.exe on your WinBlows setup floppy.

Boot from it and type FDISK /MBR , then do a quick format by typing FORMAT C:/Q , when done name your partition DISK1_PART1 and reboot using the setup floppy.

Choose start computer with CD support, at the a:\ prompt type SMARTDRV , C:\ , then type MD C:\WIN9X .

Type CD WIN9X  , then type COPY D:\WIN9X\*.*
(Assuming d:\ is your CD drive, substitute the correct drive letter if not)

When the copy completes install from that directory by typing setup.exe.

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2002, 09:19:07 PM »
OK, I actually think I'm back where I started before I tried to "fix" my system.

AH will run, but 4 out of 5 times that I try to start it, I get an instant CTD. I managed to play offline a couple of times, one CTD after about 10 minutes, and I exited after 5 minutes the second time on.

I think my problem is the K7AMA MoBo, or maybe the Ram.

eskimo

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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2002, 11:15:59 PM »
if the crash ocure when using intesive 3d aplication or just anithing above
the problem is ,sory but again the powersuply, but this time at AGP port what not give inaf for  hungry GE4 ;)

eskimo , try it run with some realy lame agp card to test stability

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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2002, 04:22:17 AM »
Have you checked your heat sink? Check your sys to see how hot the cpu is getting when on the net and again when playing AH, you may not have enough heat sink and fan for graphic intensive number crunching, just a thought.