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Offline Hussein

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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2002, 01:14:50 AM »
Hey let's keep the perspective here..

Even if you do fry your Athlon, you can still buy a new and faster one by the time it does for half the price of P4..

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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2002, 05:15:07 AM »
I love my Athlon 1.2GHz. Installed it June 2001 on a Asus A7V133 mobo. With Elsa Gladiac Ultra vidcard, I get 60-80fps.

The Athlon runs at 58° celsius or higher, gives no problems and cuts down on my heating bills.

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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2002, 07:02:40 AM »
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Hey let's keep the perspective here..

Even if you do fry your Athlon, you can still buy a new and faster one by the time it does for half the price of P4..



And A new board to boot.

Eskimo, just get a new GOOD MB.  I'll bet you that you're problems will clear up.

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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2002, 07:46:31 AM »
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Hey let's keep the perspective here..

Even if you do fry your Athlon, you can still buy a new and faster one by the time it does for half the price of P4..
Have you checked the prices lately?  My guess is no.

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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2002, 12:35:27 PM »
Yup Deja is right, compare right now the P4 2.4Ghz or 2.53Ghz machines to the AMD XP 2400.  Pretty compareable, and the performance differential is not there anymore either.

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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2002, 03:16:56 PM »
Oh yea, Eskimo...my Athlon runs Aces High just fine...

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2002, 10:42:35 AM »
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Have you checked the prices lately? My guess is no.


http://www.dabs.com is the largest PC components supplier in the UK and their prices are normally amongst the lowest:

Intel

2.0 - 2.4 - 2.6 are priced at £131 - £162 - £313 respectively

AMD

2000+ - 2400+ - 2600+ are priced at £75 - £143 - £227...

You do the maths. It's not "half price" but you'd be able to buy a decent new mobo as well... Take into account that RDRAM is still considerably more expensive (~50%) than DDR SDRAM...

p.s I know that Athlon 2000 runs at 1.7. It's what it does at this speed that matters, right? ;)

p.p.s. Deja - they do not "seem high", they are what we pay for CPUs here in the UK. Pricewatch works for US only. The rest of the world have to take into consideration sales taxes/import duties, freight costs etc... I can find CPUs cheaper by a few quid here and there but certainly not to make a difference to a pattern and in those places there usually is shipping on top to kill off the gain on a price. Here's another one http://www.komplett.co.uk - actually they're Norway based - AMD - 65-133-207 vs Intel's 110-144-288. They charge ~£6 delivery. All the above prices exclude sales tax at 17.5%... Still want to go Intel? I can't afford it...;)
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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2002, 11:15:10 AM »
Check Pricewatch

Those prices you're showing seem high for both.

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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2002, 12:16:10 PM »
Prices in Finland:
AMD XP 2400 257€
Intel P4 2,4 259€

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« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2002, 02:50:53 PM »
Eskimo,

Do you have more than one stick of memory?  If so, power down, remove the second stick of memory and fire it up with only the first stick in it.  See if it's stable.  Then shut it down again and take out the first stick and put the second stick in the first slot.  Fire it up and check the system out.  That should tell you if your memory is bad.

I had TONS of problems with my system being unstable when I first got it.  I tried a ton of stuff.  I never tried the memory because I ran a memory test and it passed.  Finally, I ran out of things to check and did the above procedure.  It turned out that one of my memory sticks was bad.  I returned it.  Within a week, my second stick stopped booting the system too.  I returned it too.  I haven't had a problem since.

I bought Corsair (not the value stuff) as that is the most reliable brand.  That's part of the reason I was so sure it wasn't memory.  In doing my investigations on the net for a solution to my problem, I found that bad memory was by far the most common reason for people having instability.

BTW, what OS are you running?  I have been running 98SE forever (about) and it's pretty damn stable for a MS OS.  I tried XP and could not ever get it running correctly.  It would always blue screen on me within a couple of days of installing it.

What kind of power supply do you have?  How many watts is it rated for?

I'm running:
Antec 400W P/S
Epox 8KHA+ motherboard
Athlon XP 1800+
2x Corsair PC2100 CAS 2.5 256Mb RAM
GeForce 3.

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« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2002, 01:28:56 PM »
I've been running a scratch built 850 mhz T-bird for a year now, proc runs at 40 degrees C, i get 60 to 85 fps with an OCed GF 4 mx card.
btw, this system is rock stable, fast, and cheap, i love it :)