D9 deck speed is off?

[Vermillion]

Wilbus, whats wrong with the A8?

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by Hristo
Montezuma is on vacation ?

I was but I'm back!

Most D9s were poorly built and used inferior materials.  Many of them in the field couldn't hit the factory numbers, so in this case selective realism works in the LW's favor.

It looks like Luftwhiner credibility has hit a new low with HTC.  Go ahead and spam them to see if it can get any worse

[Urchin]

Originally posted by Montezuma


Most D9s were poorly built and used inferior materials.  Many of them in the field couldn't hit the factory numbers, so in this case selective realism works in the LW's favor.

Oddly enough, he's got a point here.  It isn't an entirely valid one unless it is modelled for everything that didn't perform 'to spec' though.  For instance, the N1K2 was also poorly built using inferior materials.  I've got no information on that plane, so I've got no idea whether or not the AH specs match up with the 'factory' specs for that particular plane.  Another instance is gun jams- some guns and gun installations were more prone to jamming than others.   Not modelled here.

[MANDOBLE]

Originally posted by Montezuma
Most D9s were poorly built and used inferior materials.  

And, of course, I suppose u can back up that with documents, right? So, 6 0 0 out of the 7 0 0 Doras were poorly built with failing engines, paper wings and wood-made guns ...

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by MANDOBLE


And, of course, I suppose u can back up that with documents, right? So, 6 0 0 out of the 7 0 0 Doras were poorly built with failing engines, paper wings and wood-made guns ...

700 is the optimistic luftwhiner estimate of Dora production.  

Did you see the pictures on AGW of the 190D being restored in Arizona that has wooden flaps?  Why do you think they would do that,  because they thought wood was better?

If you would like to read something other than your fan boy coloring books, I would suggest you find copies of the US post-war interrogations of Luftwaffe and RLM officials.  They agree that the quality of German planes was bad starting in late 1944.

[MANDOBLE]

Montezuma, I sincerely think u are not worth the reply. You are talking about the last surviving Doras in 1945, one of them being capured and with ,"supposedly", poor wood parts. That doesnt mean that plane was built as it was found by the allies. Ground crews substituted damaged parts with whatever they can find.
And for your information, La7 is almost a tree (poor wooden plane with even wooden ailerons).
 
In any case, my, again supposedly, coloured books are better than your transparent and vapour-made ones.

[XIII]

The said Arizona 190D is a -13, bit later than the AH D9 that isn't even using later D9 engine etc.

[Glasses]

Montezuma my little hut monkey the Arizona  Dora was a D13 that was made in  January-Feb 1945 that would be why it has "lower grade materials"  compared to the other Dora the quality of the Late '44 doras was not inferiror the Germans maintained Good quality depsite the constant Allied bombing,your mind is so much clouded in toejam , can't even pick up a little book and read,except biased accounts. NO, it's not optimistic my Little Allied Swhiner it's a fact just look at the Units that had the D-9 and you will get the number,of course many things are clouded hence the last months was very much chaotic for the Germans and if you're completely ill centered on allied aircraft just because X particular author furthers the myths down from the Allied POV from by which you get your assumptions  and theirs as the truth which is not.

 BTW the D-13 didn't use the Jumo -213A it used the Jumo 213F is was a lo altitude Jabo version of the Dora  with a speed very close to the Tempest. second thing like it has been told  there are different versions of the Dora the first one didn't have any type of injection systems the first ones that reached the front  to JG54 and Jg26 but from 1945 they had standard both MW50 and Gm1 in the same Jumo213A engine instalation.

[Montezuma]

Nazi boy, maybe you should read what your friend Albert Speer had to say about the quality of German aircraft in late 1944.

[Naudet]

Many of them in the field couldn't hit the factory numbers, so in this case selective realism works in the LW's favor.

Funny, there is a RAF report about the "poor" quality of spitfires.
The RAF leaders were pretty pissed when they noticed that the production planes were up to 40mph slower than the manufactures data.
Even after removing some parts and reduce the overall drag, none of the tested productions Spits hit the factory data.

The PRO has the report, but i don't know the document number.
Also there exist german test of captured allied planes, and none of the tested planes matched the numbers given in the literature.
(I can't get a copy of that, cause publishing those things is restriceted)
But i am sure the test data of allied planes in germany are pure propaganda, while all RAE comparison tests are 100% accurate and true right?


For all planes AH works in favour to the factory data and not the actualy production planes.

[Wilbus]

The PRO has the report, but i don't know the document number.
Also there exist german test of captured allied planes, and none of the tested planes matched the numbers given in the literature.
(I can't get a copy of that, cause publishing those things is restriceted)

Naudet, could you tell me how to get hold of this? Can I buy it somewhere?

[straffo]

all the 190 the french were expecting to use at the end of the war (to wait a new local fighter) were so dangerously build that they were scrapped fast....

same for the ju88

[minus]

hmmm montezuma , if you call  any Lw flyer nazi whatewer crap just come here in EU , you will see,  i will ruin you, and will broke up your nose  !!!!:mad:



in EU call some 1 NAZI s very expensive  !

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by minus
hmmm montezuma , if you call  any Lw flyer nazi whatewer crap just come here in EU , you will see,  i will ruin you, and will broke up your nose  !!!!:mad:



in EU call some 1 NAZI s very expensive  !

I *think* that is a threat, but I am unsure.

[devious]

Originally posted by Montezuma
Nazi boy, maybe you should read what your friend Albert Speer had to say about the quality of German aircraft in late 1944.

*PLONK*