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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2002, 08:00:44 AM »
If its successful, I can see a future of the MA being a furball arena for those with limited time and need a quick fix...the Mission arena for those who have the opportunity to put in long days on AH.

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2002, 08:10:27 AM »
I don't fly in the CT because the numbers are usually so low.  Even when they're higher (20-40), everyone seems so spread out and uncoordinated that the action is just a bunch of isolated, chance encounters.

BUT...if there are 80-100 in the Mission Theater, and they are organized in some meaningful way, then I will definately participate.

Historical match-ups are important to me.

The CT will probably go away, but if there are 200 in the MA and 100 in the MT, that will be enough for both.  

Slow times, when there are only 100-150 on line, might strech pilots a bit thin between the MA & MT.

If the MT proves popular and draws too many players from the MA, I forsee the removal of the "Pizza map" from the rotation.  It will be way too big for 200 or so pilots.


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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2002, 08:26:05 AM »
I havent played in almost 2 years now, been back since a month or so.

They MA has become so crowded it's almost no fun anymore.

The only thing that makes me come back are the missions.

Guys like Rocstar en Keez that put up great missions and see them thru are, in my mind, the people that make AH enjoyable.


I think that the MA is the way to go for AH, to take it to the next level.

So yes, I'll be there.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2002, 08:42:43 AM »
Seeings how the CT and the Mission based arena would be kinda overlapping, I would think the CT as it is now would likely be done away with wouldn't it? Look at the features of the new arena...

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Scoring is completely different with a heavy emphasis placed on achieving mission objectives and survival. With success, you will earn career points that will translate to rank promotions. Stats such as kills, strikes, etc., will be streak based and reset upon death. Your personal best streak will be saved in its own category and not reset. Ranks and medals are also not reset upon death, but death will carry a large penalty, and may even penalize other members of your flight. In earning career points, succeeding in your mission objective is of paramount importance. If your mission is to protect a group of bombers, than their survival, along with that of your own flight, will dictate the success or failure of your mission.

All operations and scoring in this arena are completely done by the host. There is no CM or admin staff to run these missions although the mission profiles will be scripted ahead of time. We plan to start this arena with an 8th AF/Luftwaffe setup and eventually expand to all theaters once we are comfortable with the system.

There are a lot more details to be covered, and this will certainly bring up more questions than we can answer at this time. At this stage, we just want to provide a general outline of what’s to come and then give the details as we get closer to completion.


I think it will be pretty cool to get our squads together and run these missions against each other. :) The medals and different ranking/scoring will promote fly-to-live. I'm looking forward to this.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2002, 08:47:32 AM »
The mission theatre is my sole reason for going on living right now.:)

Seriously, I am really lookig forward to it. So is the entire Marine Air Wing. Conversations have shown we may move our squad nights there entirely.

You see, all HTC has to do is make the MTA like the TOD, with a new run every 30 minutes. (Which is what they intend to do)

Even without the bells and whistles, like points, rank, etc, it will still be like having a dedicated Ripsnort planning your missions for you.

Now I am of the opinion that it will be appealing to those who fly Missions, Strat, and seek the reset. It will be shunned by the intant action furballers. (It does'nt take a magician to figure this one out.)

Me....I'll be there, day one.

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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2002, 08:57:20 AM »
I'll be there seeing that the CT might meet it's fate (I hope not) but the mission theatre does sound good. I usually fly in missions anyway with my squad and flying to live kills or not, no big change there. The MA is still fun it just dosn't hold my interest as long as it used to.

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2002, 08:59:58 AM »
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Seriously, I am really lookig forward to it. So is the entire Marine Air Wing. Conversations have shown we may move our squad nights there entirely.


You do understand that you won't be able to run 100-plane gaggle missions?


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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2002, 09:02:31 AM »
I'm not sure what I'll be doing an hour from now!

The only problem I see is that unless a squad enters this arena together and joins a mission, guys who are used to flying together, can no longer fly together.....it will be like catchin a plane...arrive at the gate late, you''ll have to catch another flight.

Who knows? I know I don't. What I do know is this...HTC has taken us this far, so I'm stayin on the bus.

Honestly, my best guess is that only 10-15 % of the player base will frequent this arena...I believe most players want what the MA offers....the whinin here on this board represents a small number of the overall players subscribed(the hardcore goofy ones post on the BBS). Of course I'm not included in that group as I'm here to provide a balanced perspective to an otherwise skewed mindset.:)

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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2002, 09:09:14 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
If the main became deserted then I would try it untill a new sim came out that was not "historical" and then I would quit AH and join it.   The same thing happened in WB.

I don't care for "kills per hour" so much as 'action per hour'.   Missuns are not action to me.   being part of a group with a "goal" is not the same as having fun.   If I wanted to work and be bored and be part of a team with a 'goal'....


I woulda just stayed at work and made the overtime.  

my guess?  It will attract a lot of old vets who have managed to burn themselves out and think that this will be a so,ution...  It won't of course because... it won't be run the way they want it to be run.   They will blame that on why they don't fly there either.
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...said Eeyore, the pessimist..:D
« Last Edit: October 14, 2002, 09:12:06 AM by Ripsnort »

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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2002, 09:30:38 AM »
I'll give the new place a try, sounds cool.  I don't fly the CT because the setups are strange, especially the  icon and radar settings which are not at all suited for my old eyes.

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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2002, 09:53:10 AM »
I'll be there from day 1. I suspect the rest of 880 will be there as well.

As for the numbers in the CT, they are generally above 50 on Sun-Tue-Thur North American Evening.  The other nights, they hover around 20.  If you see 20 in there, hop in, there will be more in a flash.

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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2002, 10:18:12 AM »
One other good reason to fly in the Mission Arena:
  • Lazs won't be in there.

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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2002, 10:26:14 AM »
let try

then

let see && decide if it fit my taste or not :)

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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2002, 10:38:29 AM »
Is it a historical planeset or all planes for both sides?

I'll be there fer sure!!!:)
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2002, 10:54:58 AM »
I have read that many of you are concerned with entire squads not being able to fly together. Well that is probably true at least at the onset of this new arena. However maybe in the future we might see an automated system where a squad CO reports in to the system on behalf of his/her squad. The CO selects prefered mission types, planes and configurations and the auto system uses that information to set up the missions. Keeping in mind that each mission element is squad based. I.E. If your CO sets your squad up as B-17's in high alt bombing runs then that squad is one group of bombers. Of course it will not be only limited to  squad personnel. The flight element is set up in the name of the squad, but if you are a newb or a loner and want to fly in a 17 then wham you select that flight element and join the mission.

What do you guys think?