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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2002, 06:51:29 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2002, 07:01:13 PM »
I'd love to see more loadouts added for the Fw190F-8.  My sources give it many interesting loadouts that it lacks in AH.

I recall Pyro stating that they'd like to do more loadouts for the 190F-8, but that it would require more assets.
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2002, 08:11:11 PM »
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Pd 8,8cm was probarly cannons firing downwards, not sure though.

Panzerblitz rockets were used in two version, later version had lower drag racks.
I want the R4M rockets especially.

AGJ, could you send me that PDF document? Please :)

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PB 1,2 was the R4M I believe in racks of 6 or 12, the firing downwards rockets were tested on shermans and panthers. I have the supporting documents for that as well.  The Er 4+4 50kg was 8 50 Kg bombs on center fuselage along with 2 more 50 kg bombs on each wings.  Wfr Gr 28/32 were the Air to Air rockets we have in AH that were modified for ground attack.  They were horrible at hitting ground vehicles due to the tractory but were used effectively against troops, they were not timed fused but exploded on impact.  Wil I can cut and paste from teh documents, but an Old friend just sent me these documents and asked if I would distribute them.  If HTC needs them for confirmation I will ask if I can loan them ;) to him.  I am not at my home comp but I will translate what each rocket was on the F8 and some stats about them as well.  But the 1000kg and 1800 kg bomb is very interesting, if added would be ncie would open options for the Ju88 as well.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2002, 09:44:53 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2002, 10:57:59 PM »
Wfr Gr 28/32

The Werfer-Granate 28/32 was a 280mm rocket projectile carried singly or in pairs beneath each wing. This had been evolved from the Wfr.Gr. 21, a 210mm rocket (already modelled in AH for the A-8).

Pzschr

The Panzerschreck was an 88mm Wehrmacht rocket projectile, carried in sets of three under each wing. It had a maximum range to achieve effective penetration of about 100 meters.

Pb 1,2

The Panzerblitz 1 was a development of the Panzerschreck with a warhead twice as large, and which could be fired from a range of 200 meters. Eight Pb 1 rockets were carried under the wings in two jettisonable wooden crates, but the aircraft could not fire the rockets if it was flying faster than about 480 kph, which left it vulnerable to ground fire.

The Panzerblitz 2 was a modification of the 55mm R4M air-to-air rocket, containing a shaped-charge warhead and being launched from underwing racks holding either six or seven rockets.

Er 4+4x50

The Er 4 was a bomb adapter which would allow the ETC 250 fuselage rack to carry four 110-lb SC 50 bombs, which, with the two ETC 50 racks under each wing (standard on the F-8), allowed a total of 8 SC 50 bombs to be carried.

Pd 8,8cm

This one I can't find a reference to, unless (judging from the illustration) it's a quadruple mount for the Panzerblitz.

Incidentally, while the F-8/U-2 and F-8/U-3 were modified to be able to carry the 1,543-lb BT 700 and 3,098-lb BT 1400 (Bomben-Torpedo -- a bomb designed to be dropped at a shallow angle near an enemy ship, which would explode underneath the ship's hull), the SC 1800 was never carried by the F-8; the 2,205-lb SB 1000 and SC 1000 were the largest bombs carried in regular service, by G-series aircraft.

The SC 1800 was used in February and March of 1944 by specially-modified G-1s of NSG 20 for use against bridge targets. In order to carry the SC 1800, the G-1 required special tires and the removal of a large amount of standard hardware, including the 20mm cannon, and the aircraft required a 1,300 yard takeoff roll. On March 7, NSG 20 employed the SC 1800 in an attempt to take out the Remagen bridge.

There were experiments conducted with various other armament sets, including underwing gondolas each containing two 30mm Mk 103 cannon, underwing gondolas each containing three 15mm MG HF/15 cannon, an inverted installation of the SG 116 Zellendusche --  three 30mm Mk 103 cannon mounted in each wing to fire down at a 60° angle (the original installation, an anti-bomber weapon, firing up at a 60° angle), the SG 113A Förstersonde -- two 77mm recoilless cannon in each wing firing down, the firing being triggered by the magnetic field of a tank, the X 4 Ruhrstahl and X 7 Rotkäppchen guided missiles, and the BV 246 Hagelkorn glide bomb.

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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2002, 11:24:01 PM »
Listing for the rockets.

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2002, 11:25:06 PM »
Here ya go

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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2002, 12:39:48 AM »
Goood AG Goood

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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2002, 02:41:13 AM »
I think that one the origin of the loadout limitation is due to the way we can select weapon....

Look at the Hangar how many clickables items can you put on the right side of the plane ?

More loadout yes but if they are selectable it would be better ;)

I bet that pyro selected representatives loadouts depending on MA/scenario needs and place availlable in the hangar

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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2002, 06:30:35 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
I think that one the origin of the loadout limitation is due to the way we can select weapon....

Look at the Hangar how many clickables items can you put on the right side of the plane ?

More loadout yes but if they are selectable it would be better ;)

I bet that pyro selected representatives loadouts depending on MA/scenario needs and place availlable in the hangar


Replacing the 2 50Kg on each wing by a 250 Kg bomb would be hard I think Just as putting a 1000Kg under the fuselage wouldnt be hard.

But you then have to model the weigh and drag and all :(

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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2002, 06:40:08 AM »
I really want to see more loadout options too. Thx Sachs

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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2002, 09:29:52 AM »
Oh and anyone forgot the IL2 ?????
should have some more options to.

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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2002, 09:40:21 AM »
Yup bug.
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2002, 02:47:18 PM »
also Tiny Tim 2000 lbs rocket should be available for the TBM

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2002, 06:40:43 PM »
190F8 --- IL2 --- hmmm...

OOOOH - it's coming in FB - now check the loadout-options for the 190A5 in IL2... only can imagine what we get for the F8

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