I know I've mentioned this before...

[lazs1]

but.. I would like to see an "average" stat or scorecard...  With all the new guys it would be especially useful and... I think it would be helpful for a lot of the guys who have been around awile too.

Average K/D K/S K/T hit percentage, kills per sortie etc.   New guys could have something to "shoot" for.  Give them an idea where they are doing good and where they are doing poorly.
lazs

[pimpjoe]

wouldnt that be the .score command?

[eskimo2]

Good idea.
I bet the average K/D is about 0.6 to 0.75
If someone got credit every time someone else died, the average K/D would be 1.0
But crack-ups on take off, landing and middle of no-where augers take a pretty heavy toll, not to mention auto-acks.

eskimo

[Broes]

www.hitechcreations.com  ->Community -> Score -> Either Stats and Score

TADA!

Broes

[Dead Man Flying]

Broes, he's referring to an arena average for various stats.  What you just described only provides individual information.

I'd also like to know the scores up to three standard deviations from the mean.  This way, players could compare themselves not only to the average, but also to various percentiles above or below it.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[AKDejaVu]

• The average K/D is easy... its 1:1.
• The average K/S will be less than 1... is this really somethig you want as a goal?
• The average K/T can't really be displayed because it would indicate exactly how many people are playing each month (something HTC has never been keen on displaying).

AKDejaVu

[AKDejaVu]

I'd rather see individual category rankings/lists.  That way each individual could set a goal as to how high up in the rankings for each individual category he wants to get.  Averages really dont tell you anything <edit: except for gunnery %>.

AKDejaVu

[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: AKDejaVu ]

[eskimo2]

AKdejaVu,

As I was saying, the average K/D must be less than 1.

For a kill to be awarded, someone must die.
But each death does not result in someone being awarded a kill.  Augers and ack deaths create more deaths than kills, overall.

Some folks are almost always killed by other players.

But others are killed by other players, and they also die in ack, while taking off overloaded from CVs, shmuck up landings, ditch/captured in enemy teritory, hit the ground 2nd after a HO, etc and no one is credited with a kill on them.

Because of this, some folks may die 1/2 of their deaths without someone else being awarded a kill.

I personally often die without someone else getting credit, for many of the above mentioned reasons.

Therefore, a K/D of 1.0, is well above average.

eskimo

[AKDejaVu]

Ah eskimo... you are right to an extent.. but then it becomes an issue of what technically incorrect set of data you use to deterimine the numbers.

Both are in error.  Many kills are not tallied either due to proximity kill or vehicle kills while on fighter missions for one... kills not tallied on the other in many instances where they should be.

But... a pilot is going to know that he simply crashes too much.  Really... the kills per times shot down are more relevant.  And.. as said above... that will always be 1.

AKDejaVu

[Vector]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
I'd rather see individual category rankings/lists.  That way each individual could set a goal as to how high up in the rankings for each individual category he wants to get.  Averages really dont tell you anything <edit: except for gunnery %>.

AKDejaVu
[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: AKDejaVu ]

S!
I'm looking forward to see your top 10 on each plane -stats coming up again. Was really good job. I've only one question: when?
 

[AKDejaVu]

I've only one question: when?

That's not really up to me.  I'm patiently waiting.

AKDejaVu

[batdog]

I like to use the STATS area to look and see how I'm doing in my favorite ride. It gives me a good idea of how I'm doing I think.

 xBAT

[eskimo2]

OK,
I was curious and just had to look.
In Tour 22, in all 4 categories (fighter, bomber, attack and GV) I had :
Bails - 10
Captured - 34
Deaths - 271
Disco - 3 (= 1.5 deaths)
Starter Deaths - 4 (we all begin with 1 death in each category so K/D can't be infinite)

Total: 320.5 deaths
- 33 ship gunner deaths =


On the stats page however;
My total deaths in all is 249
but, 20 of these death were awarded to ships gunners.
(These 20 deaths do not impact anyone's fighter, bomber, attack or GV score or ranking and therefor should be subtracted from my total deaths by other players.)
249 - 20 = 229

So,
229 eskimo deaths awarded to other players (in fighter, bomber, attack or GV).
Divided By:
287.5 eskimo's score recorded a death.
Equals;
79.6 % of eskimo's deaths are awarded to other players.

Conclusion;
If everyone behaved like eskimo, the overall average K/D would be about 0.8

eskimo

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Ah eskimo... you are right to an extent.. but then it becomes an issue of what technically incorrect set of data you use to deterimine the numbers.

Both are in error.  Many kills are not tallied either due to proximity kill or vehicle kills while on fighter missions for one... kills not tallied on the other in many instances where they should be.

But... a pilot is going to know that he simply crashes too much.  Really... the kills per times shot down are more relevant.  And.. as said above... that will always be 1.

AKDejaVu

We do get credit (as far as K/D goes) for proximity kills, don't we?

GV kills in fighter mode are definitly not recorded K/D wise, good point.

eskimo

[Drex]

If everyone behaved like you eskimo, we would all be drunk and homeless.

Drex