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Offline Urchin

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« on: October 16, 2002, 07:46:33 PM »
Or possibly it is the Tungsten cored HEAP rounds that our flakpansie and apparently the manned AA/AT/anti-ship guns fire as well.  

Was killed at a range of 3500 yards twice.  In two hits.  I was hull down on a ridge.  A whoopee TANK hit me twice with 75mm AP rounds from 1700 yards and didn't do any whoopee damage, so would SOMEONE please explain how in Christ's name a whoopee 37mm round can kill in one hit from over twice that distance?  Please?  

What, he LOB one at me?  

How much armor can a 37mm HE shell penetrate from 3,500 yards away?  Or to play it safe, how much armor can a Tungsten cored HEAP round penetrate from 3,500 yards away?  I was also a good 1,000 feet higher than the manned gun was, so that'd be one hell of a lob.  

For the love of GOD, make the armor on the Panzer IV ARMOR.  Or were Tanks regularly killed by small bore AT cannon at a range of two miles?  I'm no expert historian, you guys tell me.
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Offline john9001

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2002, 07:53:00 PM »
i wonder why the 37mm anti-tank gun was called a anti-tank gun?
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Offline Puck

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2002, 07:53:16 PM »
That's ok, Urchin, let it out.  Tell us how you REALLY feel...  :D
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Offline Shane

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2002, 07:56:28 PM »
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 I'm no expert historian, you guys tell me.


you suck?

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2002, 07:57:02 PM »
Sweet!  I wondered how long it'd take, that was pretty quick.

Just kill the acks.

I doubt it was over 3k but it might have slightly.  Somewhere around that range the rounds simply disappear, can't remember how far anymore.

As for the single hit, reminds me a bit of the DMF hispano thread.  Took me about 50-60 rounds to find range then about the same again to kill you once I found the range.

You also might not want to sit right on top of the ledge, it makes it very easy to find range.

Finally, if you get killed by ack once, I'd kill the ack the second time around, but that's just me.
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Offline vorticon

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2002, 07:57:20 PM »
i hate the flak pansie luckily it goes down with one nicely aimed 75mm he shot
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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2002, 08:09:28 PM »
Fatty, if it took you 50 or 60 HITS to kill me... do you not think I MIGHT have heard some hit sounds?  Thats pretty standard when a round hits you.  It is even easier in a tank, since there are some pretty distinctive hit sounds in that vehicle.  

I would have known if you had hit me 50 or 60 times.  I heard 1 hit both times, then I was in the tower.  

There is simply no possible way that I would have 'lost' that many hit sounds.  

And if a 37mm round from an anti-AIR manned gun (which I would assume means HIGH EXPLOSIVE rounds, since that is pretty standard fare for AA guns) can kill a tank at even 3,000 yards, I'm not going to kill the ack.  I'm going to ask that the diddlying tank be looked at, since it ought not be possible.
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Offline XIII

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2002, 08:16:16 PM »
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Offline Fatty

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2002, 08:24:33 PM »
Okay, far be it from me to dissuade you from these beautiful meltdowns.  You're right, killing the ack was a silly idea.
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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2002, 09:29:06 PM »
hehe.. at the same base, i hit him at half the distance with a 75mm round of AP from panzer, not any damage.... Intersting *scratched chin* :D
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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2002, 09:29:39 PM »
doh.. interesting
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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2002, 09:30:52 PM »
doh again, that was 3 hits of 75mm AP ammo from the panzer.  Think i am done yet?;) :p
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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2002, 09:50:59 PM »
I heard 2 hits Lazer.  But I HEARD them, even if they didn't do any damage.  Fatty says he hit me 60 times with the 37mm from 3,000 yards... but I didn't HEAR any hits.  Furthermore, he could have hit me a zillion times and I still don't think it should have penetrated.
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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2002, 09:56:59 PM »
Urchin the sad truth of the matter is that Fatty knows the right angle and place to get the best penetration that makes you squeel.

The mans a stud
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Offline mason22

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2002, 10:00:05 PM »
huh huh...he said "penetration"....
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