Author Topic: Homeowner kills burgler, gets jail time (part 2) (Read 527 times)

Pongo · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2002, 11:55:10 AM »

And both sorta make sence. So does sending a guy to jail that stabs a fleeing man 12 times.

I think universal gun ownership would be great. If they could make them so they only work in the home..and dont work on your own family..

Dowding · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2002, 12:02:29 PM »

The fella also stated he was protecting his family, after hearing his daughter screaming... only his family was proved not to be actually at home.

You might argue stabbing once was justified - but 12 times in the neck, head and back in the middle of the street?

Airhead · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2002, 12:04:42 PM »

Outlaw knives.

midnight Target · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2002, 12:04:59 PM »

BBS pet peeve..

When the facts get in the way of a good gun rant!

<-- is that enough?

Airhead · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2002, 12:10:17 PM »

LOL That and posting out of boredom MT

Fishu · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2002, 03:50:23 PM »

I'm sure he had plentiful of time to notice it wasn't a machete, while stabbing 12 times..
Undoubtably the burglar must been beyond threat and dead after 4 stabs in the torso.

But even so, the burglar wasn't exactly invited for a visit..

If he would have shot him, I bet he would been charged for murder :>

Horn · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2002, 04:09:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
If an intruder is running for the front door and you shoot him in the back in your living room that's manslaughter.

Not in Colorado. Anywhere beyond the inside threshold, he could be shot. Just that a stranger is in your house is enough of a threat. They call it the "Make My Day" law here.

dh

fd ski · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2002, 04:23:53 PM »

now fess up heroses here..

How many of you hope that one day you catch someone breaking into your house ?
Come on, be honest.

funkedup · « **Reply #23 on:** October 17, 2002, 04:33:09 PM »

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Originally posted by fd ski
now fess up heroses here..

How many of you hope that one day you catch someone breaking into your house ?
Come on, be honest.

The thought scares the toejam out of me. Encountering someone in the dark in an enclosed space. If it comes down to combat, at worst you lose in a struggle and die, and at best you end up having to answer questions from the cops and cleaning brains off your living room carpet and drapes. Ideally you scare them off and they leave without a confrontation. But if the person is in my home with the intent to do violence against the occupants, I'd be happier to have a gun than not have one.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #24 on:** October 17, 2002, 04:59:55 PM »

It wasn't in my house... but here's what scares me about some people in that situation...

We were in the middle of the jungles of Colombia at a small tent site we'd set up. The Colombians were patrolling around the camp, and we were armed and ready to defend inside of the camp.

Late on a friday night, there was large caliber automatic weapons fire for a few seconds then silence. We were in the equivelent of a cardboard box when one of the officers next to me elected to unholster his sidearm and point it at the door (also made of cardboard). Another joined in with him... as they crouched ready for the enemy. Eager to defend their cardboard box.

About then, and NCO spoke up and said "lay back down gents, its a cardboard box... they'll just shoot through the sides if they do anything. The only one coming through the front door will be one of our people telling us its clear."

The next day I was the only one not in security that kept their sidearm. The rest of the men were orrdered to turn them back in.

The thought of people eager to kill intruders scares me.

AKDejaVu

Dune · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2002, 05:00:29 PM »

I have guns, and I sincerely hope that I never have to use it on someone. I would if it came down to it, but I hope not.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2002, 06:56:12 PM »

I love firearms - but frankly I think those I have are more dangerous outside of the case and loaded than a possible intruder. You guys remember the case over here in PA about the guy that shot his neighbor who was drunk and naked trying to break into his house? He went to the big house because he used "excessive force" and the intruder was on the doorstep, not in the house itself... careful where you shoot someone I suppose.

NUKE · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2002, 09:43:30 PM »

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I don't know what an English homeowner is supposed to do, let the burgler attack him? What if the homeowner only stabbed him once but still killed him, would he still get jail time?

I think the English home-owner is supposed to offer milk and cookies, then give the burglar a nice, big hug...... kinda like the liberals here in the USA wish it were here.

Then the home owner is supposed to ask what type of weapon the burglar has and if he means to use it.

As a last resort, the home owner is expected to demand the burglar leave the house before morning.

texace · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2002, 11:02:43 PM »

IMO, if someone is threatening bodily harm to me or my loved ones...then I wll try my hardest to protect myself and my loved ones from danger, using any means I have at my disposal.

Let's use an example. Let's say I'm at school and someone threatens to fight me. I ignore the threat and continue my daily business. He starts to get more hostile, pushing me a dn calling me names. Still I'll ignore it, as it is not an immediate threat. But if that guy swings at me in any way, then it is on, and I will fight him until one of us is reduced to a quivering mass on the floor.

Now...my dad taught me that as long as I do not thow the first punch, it's alright to act. So...according to this situation, if he swings and I beat the crap out of him, I am wrong, because I could have walked away.

Now...let's say I walk away from that fight. Later in the day, I find my car vandelized, and even later in the week I am jumped by him and three friends and beaten badly. I'd rather get in trouble then than get hurt later.

Makes no sense, huh?