i just deleted....

[Nash]

Yeah, he prolly is.

When I was a kid, I could deal with my parents saying I couldn't do something. I'd break the rules sometimes, but hey..

But if they ever tried spying on me like that I would lose any respect I might have for em.

I hope for your's and the kid's sake he never finds out about this... Prollem is, is that if you bust him for looking at porn, you're gonna have to admit to invading his privacy and not trusting him. (It's kinda creepy in fact... the thought of you sneaking into his room and retracing his steps on the web)... What yer doing is quite a bit worse than much of what yer son may or may not be doing imho.

*Especially* since your kid sounds like a healthy well rounded person. What did he do to earn such mistrust from you?

You haven't caught him doing anything. Good. So the only guilty party in this episode is you.

[TherealOtto]

Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, he prolly is.

When I was a kid, I could deal with my parents saying I couldn't do something. I'd break the rules sometimes, but hey..

But if they ever tried spying on me like that I would lose any respect I might have for em.

I hope for your's and the kid's sake he never finds out about this... Prollem is, is that if you bust him for looking at porn, you're gonna have to admit to invading his privacy and not trusting him. (It's kinda creepy in fact... the thought of you sneaking into his room and retracing his steps on the web)... What yer doing is quite a bit worse than much of what yer son may or may not be doing imho.

*Especially* since your kid sounds like a healthy well rounded person. What did he do to earn such mistrust from you?

LIke I said, I haven`t checked on it in a while. No need to. He stays clean. It`s not really what he has done in the past that I have had to check on what he was doing. It`s the things that other kids have done. Like the two at Columbine High School and others like that.

I don`t have to defend my parenting to anyone really. As far as me "spying"......well.....call it what you will. I`m just trying to make sure my son stays "well rounded". It`s a natural concern for any parent I would hope.

If he found out I used to keep track of things he types into that computer I would not be ashamed. As long as there are perverts, child pornographers and other such people who might intend harm to one of my children I will continue to do what I feel is needed to keep them away from them.

Oh and I don`t mistrust him. I mistrust the environment he can get into on the internet.

[Staga]

Just be sure you don't read his emails or snailmails.

[Nash]

Sorry Otto.... you're right. You don't have to defend your parenting to anyone. Yer kid seems ok... so I suppose that's all that matters in the end.

[Innominate]

Here is a question, something that's always bothered me.

Kids see people killed, mutilated, etc on TV all the time.  Violence abounds.

Show some tits and the kids aren't allowed to watch.  Does this make sense?

Is sex worse than violence?

I remember a few years ago, we ran across some guy who was trying to pick up kids.  Boy did we have fun with him.  You wouldn't believe how easy it was to bill 1800 numbers to specific people, or simply have someone's phone service shut off. :D:D

[Animal]

Let me get this straight:

Some of you think its better for a kid to watch TV (for example), where they have no control of what they are shown, than it is to use a computer, when they choose whatever they want to see (or not)? If your kid is interested in watching porn, it doesnt mean he is a horrible freak, it just means he is sexually healthy.

Way to go, your poor kids will have a hard time being a true individual, cause you are not only forbiding what they see, but plainly trying to control their sense of curiosity.

If you have more trust for what strangers teach your kids, than trust for what your kid decides to do with the information that is available to him,  you are not a parent but a manager.

I think the internet is one of the greatest learning tools of all time because a person can access information at will, from the safety of home. Yes, there are awful things out there in the web. But so what? its even worse in the world. You cant shield your children from reality.

If you have to watch what sites your kids are visiting, and spy on their emails and private messages, then you have serious issues, not only as a parent, but as a person.
And trust me, even if you keep taps on whatever your adolecent kid sees, and hears, you are not doing any good, cause his imagination will provide for whatever information you are restricting -- and there is nothing more wild and freaky than an adolecent imagination when they are just starting to get curious on what you consider to be be morally wrong.

[mrfish]

desensitized?

I've seen loads o' porn and i assure you i'm still quite....uh....sensitive. (uncomfortable shuffle)

the preacher and his wife might pat each other on the back for sticking to the missionary position and feeling guilty and all that but i doubt that the good reverend fantasizes about his boring sex life when he's alone in the shower, though he'd never admit it.

in my opinion this creates dissonance between fantasy and reality and who knows what part of your psyche that puts a strain on.

if his real sex life with his wife was as creative as a good porno then a porno wouldn't seem so awful really ......nothing like a good XXX throw down to add perspective right? m-maybe it's just..... jealousy?

oh, fire away...i already smell the brimstone muhahah

[whgates3]

the roof of the vatican (sistiene chapel) is covered w/ naked bodies (boobies!) - its the mumlim religon that bans that type of thing...joedirt is hatching yet another al qeda plot to ruin our american way of life

[Hussein]

What, you think it's OK for a 15 year old to have unrestricted access to the Internet without parental supervision?

Airhead FYI some of the 13-year olds get pregnant. You think that happened by themselves? And before you say anything, NO they probably never saw a porn flick in their lives before they got LAID. Most likely their parents NEVER told them a WORD about sex so they had to discover for themselves.

So if your kid is 15 and takes BJ's or even a bit of p.... from his numerous girlfriends on daily basis, you still think he's not adult enough to see some pr0n? You really think he blindfolds himself when he's fingering his girl in his room? Lol. Don't kid yourself, that stuff is old news by the time kids get 15.

When the thing starts to interest you, you're old enough. I was about 12 when I read my first dirty mag - and never looked back after that lol.

I'm not going to make my kid feel himself dirty for doing a completely natural thing.

It's YOU that has it all wrong.

[Dingbat]

Originally posted by Airhead
You guys are full of more toejam than my Thanksgiving Turkey.

There are better stuffing options Airhead

[gofaster]

Pop-quiz: in the early days of the Internet, what was the 2nd largest e-commerce industry?

Hint: the largest was online banking/stock trading.

Another hint: 70-80% of the early Internet users were male.

Its a shame when people just outright delete their files instead of uploading them to newsgroups first for all to share.

[Airhead]

Hussein, porn is demeaning to women. I have a 17 year old daughter, and if I thought one of her dates spent more time surfing porn sites than doing schoolwork she would not be dating him. Don't you see how porn dehumanizes and objectifies women? You are the one who has it all wrong.

As far as checking on computer history- I have the right to search my child's room, car, school locker, books, computer history or any other thing I want because I am her parent. Privacy? When she's an adult or when she has earned my trust and respect then I will respect her privacy. Until then I reserve the right to search what is actually MY property with the motive of protecting her from things like drugs. Oh, I forgot- I'm talking to the pro-drug crowd who thinks it's OK for my child to get high. Otto has every right to know exactly where his child is and what he is doing, on or off the Internet- that's called being a PARENT, something steely07 obviously is not.

Innomanite, using violence on TV as an excuse and justification for a minor child to view porn makes about as much sense as justifying heroin use because alcohol is legal.

Gofaster, so because "everybody" views porn it's OK for our kids to view porn? FYI I have no porn on my computer- I don't hit porn sites, download porn off KaZaA or visit newsgroups other than Bigweek every so often.

Dingbat, I was being metorophical. I prefer an oyster stuffing in my turkey.

Mrfish, welcome back- I knew a good flame fest over porn would smoke you out.

Now, to ALL of you- We have a responsibility to monitor our childrens' behavior, to know where they are and what they are doing, and to stay very involved in their lives. I am amazed some of you disagree with that- I only hope you don't have children.

[newguy]

Helluva troll Joe

[Thrawn]

Airhead, go back to beating your kids and telling them that sex is Eeeevil.  That masture masturbation is unnatual.  Remeber when ever you have an orgasm Jesus cries.

Welcome back, Mr. Fish!

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Innominate
Is sex worse than violence?

It is according to Wal-Mart.

You can't buy BMX-XXX, but Unreal Tournament is available.