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Offline Citabria

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« on: October 20, 2002, 08:27:06 AM »
ive lost all my fighter perkies to the high g death bug in the 262.

I dont mind that as I can get more easy.


what I do mind is that i can no longer have fun flying the 262.
it must now be flown so carefully that any high speed rapid high g turn or maneuver results in being sent instantly back to the tower.


tempest
d3a
fm2

these planes face same problem.

HiTech youve flown in real g maneuvers.
you know they should not cause instant death.

please correct this


(p.s. i posted this in bug forum too)
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Offline 214thCavalier

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2002, 09:59:36 AM »
Cit i dont fly the 262 but when in tempest or FM2 or come to that any aircraft i have never suffered this High G instant death problem.
Not saying it does not happen but are you pulling hard into blackout when it occurs ? or does it happen instantly if stick pulled back fast ?
Or is your stick spiking ?

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2002, 10:14:02 AM »
Hey Cit...I think that the 262 will ALWAYS be a fun plane to fly...the last month of my flying I flew it A LOT, almost more than my Hellcat. It is an actually pretty hard to fly because if you pull too hard, bam there goes the wings. Before I dive I throttle all the way down and most of the time I could manuver for the kill. I think HTC still might check the high G forces, but I never pull hard enough to black out in a 262 - it's too dangerous. I think you made an excellent point, BUT try flying it not so much on the edge and see how you do. I know you are VERY careful, but try even more. SALUTE CIT! Drop me an e-mail I gotta couple questions for you - lmpbzktsk82004@yahoo.com.

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2002, 10:28:15 AM »
Did you REALLY suggest Fester not fly "out on the edge so much"??

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2002, 10:28:19 AM »
I don't get it... are you ripping the wings while blacked out and not noticing the rippage, ripping the wings without blacking out, or dying from over-g without blacking out?  I've never experienced this over-g death thing in any of those planes listed.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2002, 10:54:11 AM »
neither did I, I think pilots who used to yank and make the dreaded "blackout time turn" find themself miserable with this "high G death".
I never died from it, but I eard some squadies talk about it.

Maybe it's an "anti-gamey" feature, I like it.

And before someone complains about it : yes I already blackedout for real. It was in a CAP10 in the French Air Force in a "courtesie ride".  In the loop, to avoid a cloud, I blackedout both myself AND the instructor. We both awoke a couple of sec later in a dive. So at the question :"when u balck out can u still pull on the stick? The answer is no. At least not me :D
« Last Edit: October 20, 2002, 10:58:40 AM by SFRT - Frenchy »
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2002, 10:56:03 AM »
Leave it, did some tests offline. It prevents hi speed stick stiring.

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2002, 11:42:55 AM »
You can replicate it by getting your speed up(Just over 400mph in a p40e) level out, roll 90 degrees, and yank back hard on the stick untill about a half a second after you black out.  Some planes, like the fm2, which have a lot to gain from high speed dives reaally do seem to suffer.  I believe it's somewhere around 9 or 10g's that the pilot dies, well before any structure gives.

The problem is that if you hit that mark for even a moment, you die.  A stick spike, or pulling too hard on the stick for a moment, and you're dead instantly.  There is no warning like with the aircraft's parts.

Oh and heinkel, it doesn't prevent high speed stick stirring, It prevents high g maneuvers, stick stirring wont get you to that 10g mark.  It takes an attempt at a very high g turn to hit the mark.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2002, 11:45:11 AM by Innominate »

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2002, 11:46:16 AM »
This actually sounds pretty good to me.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2002, 12:56:44 PM »
I have only had this a couple of times. So I think its a bug.  On one of them, I was in nearly level flight.

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2002, 01:10:03 PM »
That sounds like something else, what Fester sounds like is the same overstressed human unit module as the 163 did.
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2002, 06:47:04 PM »
Wish there was a bug responsible for me ripping the fekin wings all the time :D

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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2002, 06:53:24 PM »
I crashed one landing today,  must be that "bug"!

Here I thought I made a pilot error!
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2002, 07:14:34 PM »
pilots were not routinely pulling 10 G in the 1940's!

if it only occours at 9 / 10 G then id say its a good thing.

seems to me anythingthat stops players pulling rediculous G's is a superb implementation.

Id like to see total loss of input once a pilot is blacked out (totaly),as in the joystick does nothing as the pilot is slumped in the cockpit passed out.

Continuous blackout isnt something to be used to evade it should cause you to become a sitting duck.Your knocked out for gods sake :D

thats my veiw

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2002, 08:37:10 AM »
Lost 262's and Tempests to this myself, about 2-3 of each since it started.  

Funny thing is if any of you ever played WWIIOL ... this reminds me of that crappy FM... where if you acidently hit the neg G trim key, instant Black-out/Death.

It's not as if I'm hitting neg G's for long periods, one quick spike will do it.
BOOM in tower.... you tend to ask of your wingman "WTF just happend?!?!?!?"

well I don't like it ..  and thought it was a bug, not a feature,

anything that makes a game more like WWIIOL is bad IMHO :D