Author Topic: Is the Tempest really better than the La7? (Read 1223 times)

Pongo · « **Reply #30 on:** October 21, 2002, 05:44:30 PM »

Isnt the tempest nearly 5 to 1 against the la7 this tour..
doenst that mean anything when a whine is on....

Samm · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2002, 06:07:25 PM »

Thats because one is a perk plane and it as flown as such . Considering that, it should be better than 5/1 . If the tempest was flown all the time like it is in h2h it would be much worse .

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #32 on:** October 21, 2002, 06:19:39 PM »

Urchin, 4 hispanos, so it is better than anything with less than that.

Pongo · « **Reply #33 on:** October 21, 2002, 06:25:25 PM »

So you think then that if the La7 was perked and the tempest was not perked the ratio would reverse?
dont be silly.

AtmkRstr · « **Reply #34 on:** October 21, 2002, 06:25:32 PM »

I can't say that I've flown the La7 much but, IMHO the Temp is better in every respect, because every La7 pilot is a dweeb

Samm · « **Reply #35 on:** October 21, 2002, 06:41:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
So you think then that if the La7 was perked and the tempest was not perked the ratio would reverse?
dont be silly.

The F4u1c k/d ratio improved when it was perked. The La7 a better fighter than the f4u1c has a worse k/d ratio than the chog .
If you think that unperking the tempest would not lower it's k/d ratio then you are the silly one .

People fly perk planes more cautiously than they fly free planes, refute this and you'll look dumb .

Samm · « **Reply #36 on:** October 21, 2002, 06:48:02 PM »

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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
Urchin, 4 hispanos, so it is better than anything with less than that.

Not everyone flies in straight lines and gets their kills from aerial straffing runs .

Granted, if you unperked the tempest we would have the chog problem all over again, but nobody is arguing that the tempest should be unperked . What I think people have a problem with is the disparity in cost between the tempest and La7.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #37 on:** October 21, 2002, 07:14:51 PM »

IMO, it is more than clear than 4 hispanos can over compensate by a wide margin any performance edge of the La7 at lo alt.

4 hispanos and an unveliable elevator authority (like the typh) at any speed avobe 200 mph means that you have more than credible chances of killing any enemy in the first snapshot oportunity with ease. Basically, the La7 will outperform almost any plane while Tempest is another point and click machine.

Samm · « **Reply #38 on:** October 21, 2002, 07:40:52 PM »

You seem preoccupide with hispano brand cannons . HurriIIC has better elevator autority than tempest and it has four hispanos, so I guess it must be pretty uber . The three shvaks on the La7 have a higher rate of fire than hispanos, making them especially usefull for snapshots .

Pongo · « **Reply #39 on:** October 21, 2002, 07:44:37 PM »

So in order to be really better then the La7 it needs a what..10 to 1 kill to death ratio. Your whole contention is silly. The Tempest is way better then the La7. Its kill to death shows it. Guys are willing to kamakazi to kill a tempest in an la7 but they are very unable to do so...why? Far supperior plane...

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #40 on:** October 21, 2002, 07:51:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Samm
HurriIIC has better elevator autority than tempest

Put both planes at 300mph, pull Tempest up and lets see if the hurry, or even the La7, are able to follow that. Even more evident, go to the Ta and dive vertically from the first base at the NW corner to the sea and recover, first with La7, then with Typh, then with Tempest. You'll probably auger with La7, but the Typh and Typh2 wont need even vertical trimming to exit the dive.

And, btw, u cant spray with a hurri.

Innominate · « **Reply #41 on:** October 21, 2002, 08:08:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
So in order to be really better then the La7 it needs a what..10 to 1 kill to death ratio. Your whole contention is silly. The Tempest is way better then the La7. Its kill to death shows it. Guys are willing to kamakazi to kill a tempest in an la7 but they are very unable to do so...why? Far supperior plane...

The tempest IS a better plane in many ways, except perhaps knife fighting.

K/D is a horrible way to compare free and perked planes. If the la7 were perked it would get a k/d ratio well above the f4u's and spit14.

Samm · « **Reply #42 on:** October 21, 2002, 08:13:03 PM »

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Original hyperbole by MANDOBLE

Put both planes at 300mph, pull Tempest up and lets see if the hurry, or even the La7, are able to follow that.

Yep sure can, you should've probably tested this out first .

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Even more evident, go to the Ta and dive vertically from the first base at the NW corner to the sea and recover, first with La7, then with Typh, then with Tempest.[/b]

I think you mean DA, and why would I waste my time doing this ?

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You'll probably auger with La7[/b]

Not unless I'm a dumb bellybutton .

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but the Typh and Typh2 wont need even vertical trimming to exit the dive.[/b]

So ? Neither does the La7 .

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And, btw, u cant spray with a hurri. [/B]

Oooooooh, so pesticide is NOT a loadout option for the hurri, thanks !

Wilbus · « **Reply #43 on:** October 21, 2002, 09:33:01 PM »

La7 will have WAY worse controll in high speed. Tiffie won't compress. Tempest probarly shouldn't compress (in R/L either untill very very high speed, 600mph or so).

Tempest outzoom about every plane in the Arena, including LA7. Tempest outaccelerates all planes in all different attitudes, dive, level, climb etc. (except 262 in dive of course).

Samm · « **Reply #44 on:** October 21, 2002, 09:42:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
La7 will have WAY worse controll in high speed. Tiffie won't compress. Tempest probarly shouldn't compress (in R/L either untill very very high speed, 600mph or so).

Tempest outzoom about every plane in the Arena, including LA7. Tempest outaccelerates all planes in all different attitudes, dive, level, climb etc. (except 262 in dive of course).

La7 handles better at high speeds than tempest and typhoon, they all turn the same at high speed, 6gs. But the La7 rolls faster than the tempest . The La7 also "zooms" better than the tempest below 8k .