Author Topic: Moscow theater, best move? (Read 1030 times)

Pongo · « **on:** October 28, 2002, 12:00:10 AM »

From what I have read the Russians did as best that could be done, opinions?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2002, 12:10:55 AM »

They did what they had to do. Second guessing them with the benefit of hindsight seems... well... the norm for these days.

AKDejaVu

Samm · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2002, 12:15:29 AM »

I think the jury is still out on that one. With 117 dead hostages and over 600 still in the hospital . Only two hostages died from bullet wounds .

Innominate · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2002, 02:10:53 AM »

Given the alternatives, what else should they have done?

Stormed the place openly? Fifty terrorists, and 700+ hostages, thats definitly not a good combonation.

Let the terrosists rot, untill they got fed up and started shooting, or maybe blew up the building?

The outcome is probably not what could have been ideally acheived, but when you compare it to the other more obvious solutions, it wasn't bad.

Perhaps the russians did screw parts of it up. Perhaps they could have done better, but they also could have done a whole lot worse.

If the russians DID use BZ gas, then it's no surprised that all of the hostages had to be hospitalized. The effects of it last for days.

Eagler · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2002, 06:12:30 AM »

right move, they can get away with that in Russia

here, dashole would call for Bush's impeachment with the same outcome

Saintaw · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2002, 06:48:56 AM »

Well, given the new all out "war on terrorism"(tm), Russia is most certainly not going to be soft on the matter.

What's funny is the reaction of Russian poeple (well, the ones I saw being interviewed on TV). Most seemed to agree that it was the best way to do it... not quite sure we'd have the same reaction over here.

Boroda · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2002, 07:02:27 AM »

A brilliant success.

Especially after all the expectations we had here. People are surprised that it wasn't f@#ked up as it was many times in last 10 years.

amazinhunks like right-wing "liberals" and "human-rights activists", who keep whining about "unnessesary casualities" are mostly considered traitors and terrorist supporters by public opinion. I hope that bloody bastard Sergey Kovalev will finaly locked in psychiatric hospital for the rest of his sour life. Or better send him to a prison camp with his beloved Chechens.

That "rebels" were shot down while sleeping. I pity that there was no way to finish them with bayonets.

Like pigs.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2002, 07:34:22 AM »

It could have been a lot worse!

I'm sure there are 600 people who are glad they went in.

Lance · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2002, 07:36:39 AM »

Sounds like they did a good job.

I especially liked "If you free your hostages, we will guarantee you will not be killed" and the implied threat therein.

Innominate · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2002, 08:00:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

That "rebels" were shot down while sleeping. I pity that there was no way to finish them with bayonets. Like pigs.

I agree totally, it would have been more fun to wake them up first.

As brutal as it may seem to some people, terror is the only way to deal with terrorists. They may not mind dying, but thier families might.

Terrorism should be dealt with harshly regardless of what country is the victim of it, or under what guise it comes.

Staga · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2002, 09:06:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
A brilliant success.

With over 100 hostages dead, most of them by gas?
Jeez I wonder how many dead would there been if operation was just a success.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2002, 09:09:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

amazinhunks like right-wing "liberals" and "human-rights activists", who keep whining about "unnessesary casualities" are mostly considered traitors and terrorist supporters by public opinion.

Errr, here its "Left wing Liberals".

Boroda · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2002, 09:15:43 AM »

Here "left" means conservative, bonehead commies or nationalists. "Rights" are liberals, "free enterprising" freaks and thieves.

I don't like both of them. I still can't decide who's worse.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2002, 09:16:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Here "left" means conservative, bonehead commies or nationalists. "Rights" are liberals, "free enterprising" freaks and thieves.

I don't like both of them. I still can't decide who's worse.

Thanks for clarifying that!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2002, 09:31:52 AM »

Question is, was the US's response to the post-crisis proper?

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"The Russian government and the Russian people are victims of this tragedy, and the tragedy was caused as a result of the terrorists who took hostages and booby-trapped the building and created dire circumstances," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-wh/2002/oct/28/102802615.html