Author Topic: Please, perk the Dora (Read 999 times)

ZAMO · « **Reply #15 on:** October 29, 2002, 04:27:59 AM »

Hey, thinking about the joke above..I have just thought something that surely it could have been be already post, but It would be a lot of fun to perk pliots based upon his performance in his last tour

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #16 on:** October 29, 2002, 04:49:12 AM »

Perk La-7, 109 G-10, P-51D, 190 D-9.

Pepe · « **Reply #17 on:** October 29, 2002, 05:24:09 AM »

G-10??...Why?

robsan · « **Reply #18 on:** October 29, 2002, 05:37:12 AM »

why not be consequent and perk all Planes, minus the Early War Planes?

Early War Planes are perk free.

Planes that arrived later in the War are perked according to their
"uberness factor", compared with others.

One concession may have to be made...
the largest player base is probably from the US so:
perk free Planes start with Amerikas entry into the War,
yet if you choose to fly earlier European Planes you are
rewarded more perks.

oboe · « **Reply #19 on:** October 29, 2002, 06:32:53 AM »

I don't know about perking ALL planes except early war ones, but
I could definitely see lightly perking later war variants of plane and leaving the earlier variants free.

There are alot of planes to fly in AH, but most people chose the best free plane they can get (a rational decision), hence the hordes of LA-7s, N1Ks, Spit IXs, and P-51Ds.

It would be interesting to see what happens to planeset variety if HTC expands the number of perked planes but keeps their cost low.

Pepe · « **Reply #20 on:** October 29, 2002, 06:50:07 AM »

I thought Perk System was introduced to balance plane usage, and it was totally unrelated to performance aspects of each plane.

I don't really care about Perks at the time being. I fly La-7 occasionally and deal with them when they are near.

Should Perk System be revisited, IMHO, the less-used half of current planeset would be unperked. The other half of the planeset should be exponentially perked based on Arena usage. That way we should end with roughly 50% of the planeset free, 35% of the planeset lightly perked, 10% medium to highly perked, and 5% very highly perked.

Oh well...

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #21 on:** October 29, 2002, 06:57:37 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Pepe
I thought Perk System was introduced to balance plane usage, and it was totally unrelated to performance aspects of each plane.

I think perks are given to planes that would disrupt the game balance in the arena. The La7, N1K2 and the other so-called 'uber' planes don't disrupt the game balance of the arena and shouldn't be perked. Who cares if 6 out of 10 guys fly the La7 or some other 'uber' plane? Most of the guys that fly these planes suck anyways and are easy to kill. Because when you get down to it, it's the pilot and not the plane but some seem not to realize that.

Ack-Ack

BNM · « **Reply #22 on:** October 29, 2002, 06:58:08 AM »

I agree with Pepe.

Pepe · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2002, 07:22:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack

... Who cares if 6 out of 10 guys fly the La7 or some other 'uber' plane? ...

Ack-Ack

I don't care, kill-wise, but it's booooring to see always the same 3 planes.

I rather like some diversity on my menu

Cheers,

robsan · « **Reply #24 on:** October 29, 2002, 08:44:51 AM »

Everybody was crying for the P-40
now look at these stats from Tour 33

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The P-40B has 208 kills and has been killed 677 times.

The P-40E has 747 kills and has been killed 1092 times.

The La-7 has 25721 kills and has been killed 21063 times.
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"The La7, N1K2 and the other so-called 'uber' planes don't disrupt the game balance of the arena"
Really?

"Most of the guys that fly these planes suck anyways and are easy to kill.
Because when you get down to it, it's the pilot and not the plane but some seem not to realize that."
Really? 25721 minus 21063 equals 4658. That's 4658 kills plus for the La-7.

I'm with Pepe and Oboe on this one.

Halo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 29, 2002, 08:50:12 AM »

No, don't perk any more planes. The ones already perked are more than enough, especially since these were relatively limited in number or war impact.

Keep trying to perk planes that become dominant and eventually we'll all be flying only the early war planes, and the war was not won with those.

The biggest perk is such a challenge that it has not even been introduced yet: the B-29 --the king of the hill bomber with plenty of numbers and plenty of influence.

But actually 200 points for the B-29, same as the Me 262, should be about right.

Fancy · « **Reply #26 on:** October 29, 2002, 04:06:05 PM »

I know it's a joke, but the Dora isn't easy to fly. It's a great plane (I fly it all the time) but it took me quite a while to really appreciate it. And I agree with the others that LA7s are pretty much poorly flown. I'm an alt monkey and I find it easy to pull the old rope a dope on those poor LA7s. I know some good pilots fly LA7s bu that's pretty obvious from the outset.

Nash · « **Reply #27 on:** October 29, 2002, 05:43:49 PM »

WOOT!

Welcome back to the BBS minus!!!

moot · « **Reply #28 on:** October 29, 2002, 09:25:40 PM »

Keep the D9 unperked, and perk a low altitude dora varient.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #29 on:** October 29, 2002, 10:18:01 PM »

Um.

La-7 has 579 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 750 Kills of La-7

Let's compare that to the other perked planes:

Tempest has 57 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 21 Kills of Tempest

Ta 152H has 16 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 16 Kills of Ta 152H

Spitfire Mk XIV has 19 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 19 Kills of Spitfire Mk XIV

Me 262 has 63 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 13 Kills of Me 262

F4U-4 has 16 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 8 Kills of F4U-4

F4U-1C has 84 Kills of Fw 190D-9
Fw 190D-9 has 87 Kills of F4U-1C

Well now that's pretty interesting. It seems the Dora dominates the La-7, and except for the F4U-1C the Dora has a 1:1 or lesser K/D ratio against perked planes. If these two planes were perked, it's clear that the Dora would and should cost more than the La-7.

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