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Offline OZkansas

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« on: October 29, 2002, 08:47:32 AM »
On November 6th we will be informed as to the low voter turnout.  We will be admonished by the media in their parental way.  Of course, it will be true.  The right to vote just doesn’t have any value so people just don’t vote.

I offer the following for your consideration.  The only people that should have the right to vote should be those who have a stake in America.  That stake would include those that own land such as a home or farm and those that have served in America’s military.  I can see no reason why anyone outside this group should have a “right” they are unwilling to commit to or defend.  And as they demonstrate election after election even when they have the right they refuse to exercise it.

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2002, 09:07:40 AM »
You mean dead people can't vote??? :(

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2002, 09:09:20 AM »
Time of the year to once again set up my "end womens sufferage" booth up outside of Wall-mart.
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Offline OZkansas

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2002, 09:54:13 AM »
Rip said:You mean dead people can't vote???

Ummmm,er,aaa, you could say this would limit the democratic plot(I can't believe I said it) to get out the vote.

It will be harder for Chicago democrats to dig-up votes.

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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2002, 10:53:47 AM »
oz thats one way to guarantee that the system will never work for those who it isn't working for now.

I don't know any body who doesn't own their own land out of 'fear of comitment' :rolleyes:

on second thought this must be a troll, nobody could be that ignorant and make it on the net.  never mind

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2002, 11:01:25 AM »
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Originally posted by OZkansas
On November 6th we will be informed as to the low voter turnout.  We will be admonished by the media in their parental way.  Of course, it will be true.  The right to vote just doesn’t have any value so people just don’t vote.

I offer the following for your consideration.  The only people that should have the right to vote should be those who have a stake in America.  That stake would include those that own land such as a home or farm and those that have served in America’s military.  I can see no reason why anyone outside this group should have a “right” they are unwilling to commit to or defend.  And as they demonstrate election after election even when they have the right they refuse to exercise it.




 To you I would say KISS MY ASS!

 I didn't serve in the military and I don't own land yet.

 Stupid idea.....

 How about only taxpayers vote?  Then maybe I'll agree.....

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2002, 11:34:14 AM »
We all have the right to VOTE and I will be voting, I do not own land right now, nor have I served.

Strangely I am pretty angry over your suggestion, it is wrong on many levels.

Gee, bone the poor cause they can't afford land. Just cause you are poor does not mean you do not vote.

Jeez, I have allot of respect for the people who served their country, all the males in my family have, including 1 who fought as a paratrooper in WW2 and only missed the Dday drop because he broke his leg in a practice drop. My granddad was on the Tennessee on dec 7 1941, he lived through the whole war, mostly on DDEs.

If you served and you think your better then those who did not, you are a fool, what exactly where the guys who fought fighting for, more rights for themselves?

The more I think about this the more it make me mad.

I said "lol no way"  at the beginning, now its NO FU#$%$&!!! way.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2002, 11:47:50 AM »
I think folks should just be quiet and do what I tell them to do

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2002, 11:56:24 AM »
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I think folks should just be quiet and do what I tell them to do




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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2002, 01:45:37 PM »
on second thought this must be a troll, nobody could be that ignorant and make it on the net.
 As much as it seems like a troll, land ownership as a prerequisite for voting franchise was common in US and other countries with developing democracy. OZ probably got that idea from reading Founding Fathers.

 It does not make much sence now. Why my $100,000 in the bank are worse than your $100,000 in land? As for military service - it's a good point. If you are privileged to vote for policies that can get your country into a war - agressive or defencive, you should be ready to bear full responcibility.

what exactly where the guys who fought fighting for, more rights for themselves
 It's irrelevant what they were fighting for - they did not have any choice in the matter. The choice they had (and only one that matters in democracy) was in electing the government which could declare war or not. The real merit of that generation was not that they fought but that they elected government with guts.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2002, 01:48:15 PM »
First... make election day a national holiday.
Second... make voting compulsory. Hand out fines to people that don't vote.

IMHO, voting is a reponsibility, not a privilege.

FWIW, I'm a veteran and I own a home. :p
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2002, 01:52:56 PM »
Sandman_SBM: IMHO, voting is a reponsibility, not a privilege.
 That does not make sense - if a person does not feel informed to do the right choice for good, he should not vote so that he does not do harm.

 In a scirmish your orders are to shoot the enemy if you can see one or at least are fairy sure which direction the enemy is - not empty the magazine whichever way as long as you do not bring ammo home.

 miko
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2002, 01:55:24 PM »
Doesn't Australia have a compulsory election? Have to ask them if the ignorant vote in groups or if they tend to cancel each other out.

I'm betting it's the latter.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2002, 01:55:45 PM »
Nah, it's even easier...

If you vote, you get to b*tch.


If you didn't vote, you are fined anytime you b*tch about the government, and the more you b*tch, the more you have to pay.

;)

Maybe we could eliminate taxes this way!
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2002, 01:56:22 PM »
When you take the oath of service you make doing the governments will your job,  that should not give you anymore rights then the average Joe who does not do the same thing.

It does not matter if you die because of your choice, it was your choice.

The draft is different, but you still elected the politician who sent us to a place the draft was needed to deal with.