Author Topic: Why the dearth of FW190-A5 drivers? (Read 2835 times)

Ice · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »

Yep...51 is a nice ride.

The statement I made was not based on hearsay, but fact based on years of flying the FW in 3 different sims. There are many in AH who I have known for years that could fly the FW with great success...they just choose otherwise

BTW, as you are aware I'm sure, the FW has the nose down speed to exit most fights...only vertical manuevers need to be done with a bit more caution.

I know you must hate to hear that an allied opportunist might drive your ride as well or better than the great LW pilots in AH, but believe it, there are many who can...they choose to drive their favorite rides

Like I said previously...I can't wait for the DORA

Ice

milnko · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2001, 04:45:00 PM »

Reposted for your reading pleasure;

Psalm of Milenko

Kurt Tank is my shepherd, I shall not want; he maketh me a FW 190A8 to JABO down in green pastures.

He leads me beside still waters; he restores my K/D ratio.

He leads me in paths of B-n-Z for his name's sake.

Yea, though I FLY through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil; for thou MK108 30mm art with me, thy WGr21 and thy MG 151's, they comfort me.

Thou preparest a VULCHFEST before me in the presence of my enemies.

Thou anointest my head with oil, yet my BMW 801d runneth still.

Surely, DWEEDFIRES and RUNSTANGS, shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the WURGER forever!

And;
Book of Revelations:
Chapter 16, verse 10

'And the fifth WURGER' poured out his MG 151's upon the seat of the RUNSTANG; and his cockpit was full of darkness, and the RUNSTANGS gnawed thier tongues for pain.
And blasphemed the FW-190 Dora.
And repented not thier deeds.

Milenko

Hangtime · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2001, 04:59:00 PM »

I see an FW and go basicly nuts. No other A/C in this sim gets more INSTANT ATTENTION from a dedicated pony pilot than an FW.. a5; a8; F8; dora; Ta152; I don't give a damn; I'm gonna ignore the other red planes and get that damn FW.

I suspect the FW is not popular in arena play for singleton pilots simply because everybody wants to kill it.. it's a knee-jerk allied reaction I guess, and notable simply because evert time I come across one; it's already got a spit, a typhie and a pony in tow with an F4 chugging along behind the rest. I feel sorry fer them LW dweebs.. and hope they keep sending more of them over bishland.

"FW over a15!!" (two bish pony squads shift to a16 instantly)

LOL!

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Vulcan · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2001, 08:05:00 PM »

I'm sure Kurt invented the Tiffie ;-)

I used to be a big 190 fan, but the A5 is just not fast enough to disengage when it needs too. Of course this was the problem they had later on in the war.

funked · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2001, 08:26:00 PM »

Hangtime that is so true. I will take considerable risks to bag one of them little buggers!

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mauser · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2001, 10:55:00 PM »

from Hangtime:
"I suspect the FW is not popular in arena play for singleton pilots simply because everybody wants to kill it.. it's a knee-jerk allied reaction I guess, and notable simply because evert time I come across one; it's already got a spit, a typhie and a pony in tow with an F4 chugging along behind the rest."

from funked:
"Hangtime that is so true. I will take considerable risks to bag one of them little buggers!"

Hm... so I'm not being paranoid

At least most of the Pony's are bish tho

mauser

Wanker · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2001, 11:16:00 PM »

LOL Hangtime, funny you should mention that. Back in my WB days, we used to hold "kill the FW" nights, where the person who killed the most FW's that night got a little trinket from me in the mail.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2001, 11:41:00 PM »

Of the 600 engagements I've had since January 1, none of them have been against 190A-5s until tonight. 1:0 in the new millenium

And to a D25

AKDejaVu

Jochen · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2001, 02:04:00 AM »

Of course Wulf's are premium catch in any WW II sim... We are rare unlike Spitfires or Moostangs which are too numerous to be counted really.

Lone Wulf and the herd ot the sheeps. Which one you would hunt?

Ta 152 will change things a little however! Maybe Moostang pilots will need to learn few more tricks since they cannot outrun all 190's anymore.

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Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

StSanta · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2001, 05:05:00 AM »

DUH

Never thought of it that way.

been whining about "why do EVERYONE go for me all the time?"

Guess I know the answer now.

Come get some, allied dweebs

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Vermillion · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2001, 06:24:00 AM »

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Ta 152 will change things a little however! Maybe Moostang pilots will need to learn few more tricks since they cannot outrun all 190's anymore

Never looked at a Ta152 performance chart have yah?

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Lephturn · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2001, 07:00:00 AM »

Hehe, AKDejaVu... nice work.

As I Jug pilot, I look for FW's simply because they are a really good fight for me. P-47 vs. FW-190A8 is a hell of a fun fight, and both planes are similar enough to be a real blast! Those fights always make me think of Robert Johnson's book.

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Jochen · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2001, 07:06:00 AM »

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Never looked at a Ta152 performance chart have yah?

Yes I have. But have you looked recent kill stats? Tour 13:

Fw 190A-5 has 121 Kills of P-51D - P-51D has 87 Kills of Fw 190A-5

Fw 190A-8 has 107 Kills of P-51D - P-51D has 99 Kills of Fw 190A-8

If Fw 190's that are slower and worse turning than Ta 152 can kill Moostangs more than they get killed by it, wouldn't you think that Ta 152 will fare even better? Huh?

Ta 152 is much closer to Moostang in speed and in turn capability than either of current Fw 190's. So, do you feel lucky, punk?

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

funked · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2001, 07:10:00 AM »

Santa I used to strafe their chutes too.

Vermillion · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2001, 07:51:00 AM »

ummmm Jochen, the Ta152 at sea level is approximately the same speed as the 190A8.

And do you think it will have the same roll rate, with those huge wide aspect wings?

So do I feel lucky? Sure do

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