I stand corrected Toad. My mistake.
And here in is our problem..(actually yours
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Fear.
Of course the Criminals still have guns. Of course Saddam still has Biological warfare capability and Snakes still bite us in long grass. Somethings never change. Somethings never will.
The only way to remove Weapons such as Firearms completely from the Criminal element is to improvise a Military state under Martial Law and get yourself a Dictator. Unlikely to happen here or in the US methinks.
The point is....
The average Criminal will have their access to firearms greatly diminished. The average Criminal is the one you fear coming into your home. Their ability to get hold of such weapons drys up and allows law enforcement the ability to contain and identify sources much more readily. It isnt going to stop them all. Nor have I made that claim. What it will do is reduce them.
Joe Blow, citizen of the year is more likely to be the one who blows your head off. An employment dispute. Teachers allowing bullying to the point of meltdown. The girlfriends ex-boyfriend who doesnt want to live any longer now that shes gone. The Wife in a jealous rage over the 17 year old blond bimbo employed as the house maid.
These are the people more likely to kill you. These are the people you want to have guns to defend themselves with.
Was the Washington Sniper a Burglar or a respected ex-member of the US Military complete with all the disciplines that such a role entails in person. Was the kid with him an Ax murdering, house invading field before the shootings? Of course not. They were the people you want to have a gun in their hand cause your constitution tells you they have a right to protect themselves against those who would seek to do them harm.
Next ask yourself, who got hurt. Where were their weapons when they needed them most. None of them were gun owners?
Once again it's the old "military solution". Punish everyone for the error of one individual. It doesn't matter that the punishment actually has no effect on the true problem, merely that all are punished.
Nice try but no cig..........M14.
The buy back scheme is about weapon reduction. Nowhere in its fibre exists the method, want or need for "Punishment".
Punishment is the excuse of one in fear. Reasoning a rationality by fear to achieve a purpose of self acceptance.
Not only are you afraid by what others tell you, you seem willing to scare yourself in order to perpetuate the lie.
Denying all the freedom (Dare I use that word with you guys and not have to explain its meaning in this content) to buy firearms willy nilly like they were grapefruit at the markets denies ALL including the Criminals that freedom.
Your lower class scumbag will find it harder to get them than you will for conditions will be imposed upon him drying up his sources.
Who are any of you to determine who is safe with a firearm and who is not? Do you know your neighbour that well? Do you know if he/she has a firearm and what it is? Do you know what ammo they use?
If they blat one off in the middle of the night, will it go through their plaster walls, out the window and into your own killing your child in their sleep?
Every single person reading this thread is capable of killing another human being. By accident or design. I dont care what they say. All you need is the right trigger. We are by nature and instinct killers. Thats why we are the dominant species. We kill better than anything else.
Buy Back is "Harm Minimisation" Not the be all and end all of solving Firearm related Crime.
But if you dont make a conscious decision to support it. Neither will anyone else. And if you can retain your firearm. So can the person seeking to do you harm.
Most of you have never been in the situation where you need to use a weapon in defence. Hollywood, Story books and your own imagination makes you the John Wayne, Wyatt Earp and Yosamite Sam wannabees with a smoking gun in your hand and the badguy dead at your feet with your family hugging you at the knees telling you how brave you are.
Well boys, the badguys win their share of them to. That means the goodguys are the one of the floor waiting the chalk outline.
Pray your not one of them.
Also, for the sporting shooters paranoid due to some of Hestons NRA BS. Legitimate Sporting shooters in this country have the same rights they had before the Buy Back scheme. They dont have fully autos no more without a special licence but then again, any sporting shooter with a fully auto in their hands, isnt really a sporting shooter. Just a gun nut on a Yippee shoot pretending its sport.
John. Those that didnt had them seized. A Criminal record means instant denial. Those that hid them, lost them when we entered their homes for breaches of the law regardless of what it was.
Being involved in a domestic dispute, Good Citizens and bad means loss of all firearms by automatic and instant seizure.
Sure some hide them. But they lose them, the moment we know they have them.
You should also be aware that we have knife restrictions as well. Anyone caught with one in a public place without proper excuse, ie occupation, has it seized and them charged with the appropriate offence.
Should we get a series of Nail clipper deaths, I imagine we'll do something about that to. For now you are free to do you toes as often as you please.
