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Offline Edbert

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« Reply #375 on: August 09, 2004, 12:05:00 PM »
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P-kun uploaded a translation Ki-84 Flight Manual Data.
[url]This Data is from "Rikugun Koukuu Souranbu (Japan Army Aviation Pandect) written in Jan 1945".
He wants Pyro to read it.

This maybe a translation error, but if it is not then the Frank will be quite slow.
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Remove drop tank max speed: 400km/h

That is from the translated manual.

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« Reply #376 on: August 09, 2004, 12:14:28 PM »
It is saying that you are not supposed to release the drop tanks if you are going faster than 400km/h.

Most external stores had rules like this.  AH ignores them generally.

For example, rockets were to be fired at 270mph or less IIRC.
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« Reply #377 on: August 09, 2004, 12:24:03 PM »
RGR Karnak, that makes sense. If the max dive speed was listed as 750hm/h then I'd assume it reaches full compression there? That is only 466mph, must have not had hydraulic elevators then, or the light airframe couldn't take it. Anyone know what constitutes "max dive speed"?

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« Reply #378 on: August 09, 2004, 12:59:12 PM »
Again it can mean different things.  IIRC the Spitfire had a max allowed dive speed of 470mph.  This was, IIRC, indicated air speed.  In addition it had a built in saftey margin and many aircraft probably exceeded it without any damage.
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« Reply #379 on: August 09, 2004, 02:31:51 PM »
is it perked yet?
:p :D

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« Reply #380 on: August 09, 2004, 06:02:03 PM »
'84 doesnt need to be perked unless the others follow (P-38L, P-51s, P-47D-40, 109G-10, 190D-9, la-7, yak-9U, N1K)

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« Reply #381 on: August 12, 2004, 06:37:56 AM »
Question:
Which engines does Aces High II Ki-84-I-Ko have?

1800hp? or 2000hp?

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« Reply #382 on: August 12, 2004, 10:31:20 AM »
Mitsu,

I'd guess we'll find out when it is released. I doubt that Pyro reads old, very long threads like this one.

I could be wrong of course.
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« Reply #383 on: August 25, 2004, 03:40:32 PM »
"'84 doesnt need to be perked unless the others follow (P-38L, P-51s, P-47D-40, 109G-10, 190D-9, la-7, yak-9U, N1K) "

true, but dont perk the 38, not many people can use it very well and some people just wanna learn it first

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« Reply #384 on: August 25, 2004, 04:28:40 PM »
the '38-L (the best in A2G and A2A imo) should be perked unless we don't get earlier '38 variants, like the '38-G

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« Reply #385 on: August 25, 2004, 05:44:36 PM »
when it starts having a big impact in the game ( like to many people can use it well) then perk it. until then keep it off the list

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« Reply #386 on: August 25, 2004, 06:35:15 PM »
I cant wait to fly it. looks really cool.

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« Reply #387 on: August 25, 2004, 07:33:57 PM »
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hmmmmm, am i right?

The Ki-84 has a top speed of 392 without the use of WEP

The Ki-84 has a top speed of 400+ with WEP

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 uh oh there goes my pony ;) things going to be flyin by me LOL

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« Reply #388 on: August 25, 2004, 08:57:07 PM »
hehe jet, stick to the 38 with me, we can wing up when we can play.



the ki 84 should DEFINITELY be perked if its even faster then a pony. this will be the plane of choice for all the dweebs lol....

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« Reply #389 on: August 25, 2004, 08:59:21 PM »
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hehe jet, stick to the 38 with me, we can wing up when we can play.



the ki 84 should DEFINITELY be perked if its even faster then a pony. this will be the plane of choice for all the dweebs lol....
 I got to admitt ace we were some good 38 wingies. Yeah lets DEFINITELY wign up again. I will be on next week look for me then.:aok