Author Topic: Numbers thing...again (Read 407 times)

SLCR · « **on:** November 02, 2002, 07:59:42 PM »

My first whine...
Just logged in to shoot some Nits and Bish at 5pm PST. Then noticed the numbers were 6:1(!!). I have been putting up with the lopsided numbers, usually 2 or 3:1 because it meant lots of dweebs to shoot, but this was ree-dick-U-lous!!!! So I didn't even up.

john9001 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 02, 2002, 08:11:38 PM »

damm rooks gona screw this whole thing up

YOU ROOKS GET YOUR BUTTS IN THE AIR ...NOW

thrila · « **Reply #2 on:** November 02, 2002, 08:53:20 PM »

6:1? looks like 3:1 to me

Kweassa · « **Reply #3 on:** November 02, 2002, 11:49:07 PM »

3 to 1... 6 to 1... who cares?

The point is two sides got 150 people, and the other has only 50.

I know it's only a joke john, but seriously we're not the ones who are ruining it.

It's the Bishops and Knights, the newbies and mega squads which pile up there, and the veterans who keep encouraging those things, and the boneheads who advocate this situation by emphasizing the bogus "natural flow" theorem.

The longer this sort of thing goes, the bigger the need for artificial restriction which many people won't like. And once the artificial restriction sets in we have noone to blame butourselves.

I suggest veterans and squads of Knights and Bishops who really should know better seriously rethink about the numbers, start encouraging new players to go to Rooks, and consider moving 2~3 large squads to the Rooks.

john9001 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2002, 12:44:14 AM »

Kweassa
i hate to keep bringing this up but when the rooks have "squad night" or what ever they call it every 3 weeks , they put 200 to 250 people in the air, now if most rooks only want to fly one night a month don't blame the bish and knights.

44MAG

JB73 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 03, 2002, 01:16:02 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
Kweassa
i hate to keep bringing this up but when the rooks have "squad night" or what ever they call it every 3 weeks , they put 200 to 250 people in the air, now if most rooks only want to fly one night a month don't blame the bish and knights.

44MAG

oh yeah that is so much a balance .... NOT
1 day of equal #'s and rooks do good. how many times i seen knights or bish with 225 online. also rooks have NEVER beed more than 226 on "squad night".

on rooks "squad night" there usually is 200 rooks to 180-190 bish/knits ....... those #'s not overbalanced really ..... its the teamwork on those days

BTW 150 + 150 to 50 = 6-1 whoever mentioned that too. (see screenshot above)

this #'s thing is getting so Ridiculous that its not worth the effort to whine/fly anymore.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #6 on:** November 03, 2002, 01:55:32 AM »

Its weird that the other two countries always have about the same amount of players... but rooks seem to always be lower these days.

I can't help but wonder why that is.

AKDejaVu

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** November 03, 2002, 02:27:27 AM »

Its 12:30AM Pacific Standard Time on November 3rd, 2002. I logged in for a brief check of numbers, just to see what they are out of prime time.

Results:

Bishops = 61 | Knights = 81 | Rooks = 38

SLCR · « **Reply #8 on:** November 03, 2002, 02:45:26 AM »

Your right 3:1 if ONE side hits Rooks but it always seems to be a gang. Yeah, the numbers came up a bit when I logged back in to where the Rooks were taking bases but it's frustrating when the Rooks take a base Bish or Nits seem to go "Hey we can't let those poor out-numbered bastiges take a base" and they send the hordes after to take it back +1.
The Rooks numbers may spike up if and when a squad has a night but I haven't seen that is a couple months. Heck, even the 81st left and they were one of the more reliable squads with numbers...at least for Rook standards.

Duedel · « **Reply #9 on:** November 03, 2002, 03:39:29 AM »

I'm really sry for this rooks. I hate to see those numbers. If I could I would change to rooks with my whole squad but the problem is that nearly all germans are knights so I want to stay with all those people.
~~rooks~~

SC-Sp00k · « **Reply #10 on:** November 03, 2002, 06:26:47 AM »

The stupidity of the 3 country system.

Most times now, I log on. See the hammering the Rooks are suffering due to pathetic numbers and I log off. The game isnt fun. Whats less fun is determing HTC doesnt seem to care about it cause they cant be seen to be wrong.

Not a whine. Simply a personal observation regarding a ridiculous 3 country system. Being different, doesnt make it better.

airspro · « **Reply #11 on:** November 03, 2002, 08:53:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
I suggest veterans and squads of Knights and Bishops who really should know better seriously rethink about the numbers, start encouraging new players to go to Rooks, and consider moving 2~3 large squads to the Rooks.

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Duedel : I'm really sry for this rooks. I hate to see those numbers. If I could I would change to rooks with my whole squad but the problem is that nearly all germans are knights so I want to stay with all those people.

Well airmess moved us to rooks , I think it was a good idea and I him on it , please to see my post in the GD board EVIL BISH MUST DIE or 8^)

Really this has to be addressed asap , it's not fair and way past time IMO to fix it .

Kweassa is right it's up to us , the player base to step up and do the right thing .

sling322 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 03, 2002, 01:07:54 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
Kweassa
i hate to keep bringing this up but when the rooks have "squad night" or what ever they call it every 3 weeks , they put 200 to 250 people in the air, now if most rooks only want to fly one night a month don't blame the bish and knights.

44MAG

John hit it right on the head. We know that you rooks are capable of big numbers because you do it during your RJO nights. The question is "why cant you put these numbers up every night?" I dont believe that there is any way that HTC can 'force' anyone to switch to a different side. Not unless they feel like driving away customers by doing so.

Its a bit ridiculous to keep wailing about numbers imbalance when we all know the rooks are capable of putting up big numbers. I think the emphasis needs to be on figuring out why all those rooks dont fly except for RJO nights. I know why I dont fly rooks and frankly I have a feeling that my reasons are very similar to a lot of others that wont fly rooks.

Karnak · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2002, 01:18:35 PM »

I don't fly anymore (though I am still a Rook) because everytime I log on I am greeted by us being slaughtered by two sides that display little skill, no sportsmanship and grossly outnumber us.

I then log off.

J_A_B · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2002, 02:29:06 PM »

If the Bishops or Knights had a "joint ops" night they'd have over 300 players up.

Whoever thinks that most rooks only play once a month is completely mistaken. The ratio of daily players to weekly or less players will be about the same for each country.

"Not a whine. Simply a personal observation regarding a ridiculous 3 country system. Being different, doesnt make it better."

DIfferent than what? A 3-country system was used in the FIRST online flightsim.

Anyway, I don't think it's necessarily the numbers themselves that is the biggest problem (it's a problem but not an unsolvable problem)....some people LIKE "fighting the horde". I think most of the problem is the strat model which punishes the country that's least able to defend itself, so the country that's outnumbered all too often also has to deal with porked bases, nowhere safe to take off from, no dar, etc.

It's just not fun to play when you can't tell what's going on or you have to take off with 5 enemy planes trying to vulch you from a damaged field. I'm sure it's fun for the other country though getting easy kills on blind helpless targets

I think it's "fair" to willingly fly against the odds. I do NOT think it's fair to have to play without having the same opportunities or tools as other players. Nobody is willing to stay online ALL day just to guard the HQ or cap their own field, and even if they did 3-4 guys can't really stop a horde of 20+ people from blowing the stuff up. Currently, the Rooks all too often have to play against a stacked deck.

J_A_B