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Offline AKDejaVu

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« on: November 03, 2002, 02:15:33 AM »
The Spit IX and Dora slip a rung.

Tour 33

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2002, 02:39:15 AM »
WTG P-47D-11 pilots.  Nice work in that anvil masquarading as a kite.


I'm sorry to see a fighter climb above 10%, it seems the P-51D has broken a barrier that had been eliminated for awhile.

Still, the plane whiners will only mention the Spitfire Mk IX, N1K2-J and La-7.  The P-51D seems to have a "get out of jail free" card in this regards.  I wonder why?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2002, 03:08:59 AM »
and of the top 4... only the pony has failed to break a 1:1 K/D, and the other 3 are barely over it...


dunno why people whine about them at all....  

oh yeah... because that's all they ever "see"

actually... looking at the stats only 1 of every 3 you see (or kills you) will be one of those 4.

i guess the pony and spit got useage bumps due to the influx of new players.... which would also account for the pony's less than par k/d.

considering how much ord the pony carries, i dunno why more people don't whine about it because it is used in the jabo role a lot - leading to deaths as well.

perhaps it's because the la7 is pretty much a pure dogfighter, as are the spit and niki's that people detest them so much.

well, duh.   now if only people would actually use them as such.

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i don't know why the dora drivers would whine so much since none of those 3 bad monkeys are capable of taking them on in the alts and role the doras *should* operate at. maybe because they're capable of spoiling the dora's vulching/cherrypicking :rolleyes: runs.

why don't more people whine about perking the ostwind?  i really think it should be lightly perked.  i know we're getting a tiger, all the more reason to perk the ostwind as well.

looking at innomin8's stat page, the osty had even more kills than the pony did. 39,200 to 38,050 ( i beleive that pages looks at total kills, not just "fighter" kills, which would explain the discrepancy with deja's stats. i'm too lazy to work it out, but how big a % of kills by gv's are osty's? a bit higher than the 20% that got the chog perked, i bet. plus osty's can level an entire town easily, even tear up an airfield.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2002, 03:34:31 AM »
WOW WTG P47-D11 190D9 and 190A5 drivers.
Thx for stats Deja.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2002, 05:07:52 AM »
Ya it is most certainly new playes uping P51's because they think their the best ride.

 Perking the osty is imo a BAD idea, unless somthing to replace it comes along. Most all the kills I get in the osty are from people doing stupid things like flying directly at it. the ones who kill me set me up or simply drop a bomb. Also Osty's are used for base defense all the time which helps to bolster their kills. The M16 is almost intierly inaducate for defense, they pop like Zits at the least preshure from anything. perking even at very cheap levals can have a drastict impact on usage much more so than one might expect. the end result in this would be very bad for the GV aspect of AH, the only Vehical I half to work to kill is the Osty all others I have no fear of they are easy meat, heck I even went osty killing the other day in an A6M2 did prety good all evening to, short bust of 20mm from the top poped the gun every time. The tiger will have much heaver armor all around so the AP value of the Osty aganst it will more like be of little issue, also we know not what HTC has planed for the next release as far as the Armor model for GV's one would think they would be adreasing this what with the Tiger coming.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2002, 07:04:45 AM »
even with the new players we have seen over the past tour the p51d is still the most shot down a/c in aces high.

So I guess that proves that not all of umm run........or maybe they just dont get away.....:)

Anyway the 51 is used a lot more in the attack role, like the 38. So it losses will be higher. Look at the 190f8. Its still a good 190 in the a2a roll but its used mostly in an attack roll. It also doesnt have the guns that can strafe a gv and a kill as easy as the 51, 38, typh etc. It needs to get in closer. Once its ord is gone its an ineffective attack plane. Look at the hurri IId with its 40mm. One would expect it to rack up gv kills. But the range and a lethality that a hispano and 50 cal planes can hit and kill gvs makes them the best at killing gvs.

Also most gvs we face are ostwinds. When attacking these nothing matches the range and lethality of 50 cals and hispanos.
Even the il2 suffers from this. It needs to get in closer exposing it to a longer time in the osties sites.

Theres no need for specialized attack ac is ah.

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2002, 07:13:11 AM »
Wow, the p40B has a whopping 175 kills. :D

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2002, 10:45:49 AM »
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
The Spit IX and Dora slip a rung.

Tour 33

Enjoy

AKDejaVu


LOL i had 10% of the kills for F4U-1 lol  and 2% of deaths lol
279/22  in the tour


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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2002, 11:30:35 AM »
very nice whels your stats out matched that of our entire squad haha :-P

VMF-222 "Flying Dueces":
Total Kills in f4u-1 : 255
Total Deaths in f4u-1: 100

Arena:
Kills: 2675
Deaths: 2302
9% of Total Kills
4% of Total Deaths

Our Top Pilot in the F4u-1 was our XO Acid:
Kills: 111 (43% of squads kills, and 4% of Arena)
Deaths: 17 (17% of squad deaths, and <1% of Arena Deaths)

Whels I think your death % for total arena deaths is to high :-P

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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2002, 12:02:07 PM »
Watch out for the deadly C47 A with a whopping 671 kills!

Goon-O-Death

Not to mention the 2832 kills by the dreaded Chute. See it does pay to have that sidearm...
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2002, 12:25:17 PM »
I'd love to see a Kills per Sortie statistic and just a plain # of Sorties statistic.  I'm guessing that's not possible though.

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2002, 12:39:54 PM »
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I'd love to see a Kills per Sortie statistic and just a plain # of Sorties statistic.  I'm guessing that's not possible though.


Not untill someone at HTC adds a sortie counter for the planes.

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2002, 02:37:18 PM »
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looking at innomin8's stat page, the osty had even more kills than the pony did. 39,200 to 38,050 ( i beleive that pages looks at total kills, not just "fighter" kills, which would explain the discrepancy with deja's stats. i'm too lazy to work it out, but how big a % of kills by gv's are osty's? a bit higher than the 20% that got the chog perked, i bet. plus osty's can level an entire town easily, even tear up an airfield.


Shane... the Flakpansie had 39,200 kills last tour.  More than any other unit.  More than double the next closest ground vehicle, which was the Panzer (with 17,475 kills).  More than HALF (i.e. 50%) of all GV kills were by the Flakpansie.  

But again, the Flakpansie will never be perked, because it is a means for unskilled players to have 'fun'.  Aces High has a lot of subscribers.  Using common sense it is obvious that some of them will suck in the 'primary' draw of the game, so HT has provided some other ways for them to have 'fun' so they don't leave the game.  I just think it is sort of a shame that the Flakpansie has such a large impact on the game when it requires well, to be blunt, no talent or skill at all to use.  Rather like bombers used to be.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2002, 02:45:40 PM »
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The Spit IX and Dora slip a rung.

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That's because I started flying Doras   :(

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2002, 03:15:10 PM »
Whels had 113 kills and 18 deaths in the 190F8, which euates to 13% of total kills for it :) And this tour have half the kills in the 152 :)  Oh and 7 of the 12 total kills for the boston :D
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